On Mon, May 22, 2006, Manu Abraham wrote: > Maybe we need to create our own specs for DVB-S2 ? ;-) Well, probably > that explains why even though there is enough information, drivers don't > work good enough (there is bad hardware though, not talking about that). > I hear people crying to open up nVidia driver source. why ? Well, nVidia > does a great job of getting the driver moving. Well if the source and > info were to be given to the guys, well it would've been another sad > story. No wonder they don't want to open up. I highly appreciate the > fact that they don't open up, even though personally i would like to see > it Open sourced. > > I haven't been in DVB development as long as you, but i certainly am > sane enough as to include that which belongs to the spec and to the > driver into the API/driver. I really don't understand how you can call > it wrong and certainly "add them as flags (u32)". Well __u32. Sorry, > "The world is coloured, rather than Black or White", Insane ! > > This discussion certainly reminds me of the discussion on the SAS > discussions on LKML, where "Linus finally said specs are wrong." Well, > if specs and device vendors are wrong .. well i wonder who is right .. Just ask yourself: - Who are the people who wrote the DVB-S2 spec? - Why did they write it the way it is? - Which parts of it are relevant for whom? And then: - What are your goals for the Linux DVB API? - What is the price to pay for achieving this goal? If your goal is to support every wrinkle of the DVB-S2 spec just for the theorectical case that someone could need it sometime, then your goal is different from mine. If someone can explain to me how advanced features of DVB-S2 are useful *today*, and how an application would work that makes use of these features, I'm all ears. Otherwise my advice is: KISS. Johannes _______________________________________________ linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb