On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:33:02AM +0100, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:23:15PM +0200, Robin Gareus wrote: > > > only for some kind of music. > > > > Bitwig is just a toy compared to for example Csound and Supercollider. > > > > But Csound and Supercollider are not suitable for > making music. They're fine if you're some kind of > autistic savant computer genius, but utterly fucking > useless if you're a musician. Define musician. The people who are able to use Csound and Supercollider can do it because they have invested time and effort in learning to do it. As has anyone who can play whatever instrument in a passable way (doesn't matter if it is a violin or a bass guitar). As has a composer who can arrange a song and write a score for it without needing a battery of synths to know how it will sound, or to check if his harmony is right. And no matter how you turn it, learning to do something difficult has beneficial side effects, apart from the primary result. Your 'musician' seems to be one for whom everything has to be prepared before and easy, so the only thing that remains to be done is some clicking on a screen. And then think him/herself a musician just as the kids wasting their time with shoot-and-kill games imagine they are soldiers. Your 'musician' is in fact just cannon fodder for an industry that is about making fast money and little else. And he wouldn't even be able to exist without the efforts of those who can rightly call themselves musicians and be proud of it. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow) _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user