On Monday 31 March 2014 10:36:30 Fons Adriaensen did opine: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:33:02AM +0100, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:23:15PM +0200, Robin Gareus wrote: > > > only for some kind of music. > > > > > > Bitwig is just a toy compared to for example Csound and > > > Supercollider. > > > > But Csound and Supercollider are not suitable for > > making music. They're fine if you're some kind of > > autistic savant computer genius, but utterly fucking > > useless if you're a musician. > > Define musician. > > The people who are able to use Csound and Supercollider > can do it because they have invested time and effort in > learning to do it. As has anyone who can play whatever > instrument in a passable way (doesn't matter if it is > a violin or a bass guitar). As has a composer who can > arrange a song and write a score for it without needing > a battery of synths to know how it will sound, or to > check if his harmony is right. > > And no matter how you turn it, learning to do something > difficult has beneficial side effects, apart from the > primary result. > > Your 'musician' seems to be one for whom everything > has to be prepared before and easy, so the only thing > that remains to be done is some clicking on a screen. > And then think him/herself a musician just as the > kids wasting their time with shoot-and-kill games > imagine they are soldiers. > > Your 'musician' is in fact just cannon fodder for > an industry that is about making fast money and little > else. And he wouldn't even be able to exist without > the efforts of those who can rightly call themselves > musicians and be proud of it. > > > Ciao, +1 Fons. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user