On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 16:56 +0900, michael noble wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Louigi Verona > <louigi.verona@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > This is the reason Linux does not go mass market. > > To be fair, this is a reason XFCE maybe doesn't go mass market. To be fair, you can start what ever DE you want, without even using a login manager and a GUI providing _all_ possibilities is would be more confusing than editing a configuration file. If you won't setup a Linux yourself, than you can chose a distro that does provide what you need by default. So it's an issue caused by Xubuntu ;). Not really! When they use a login manager it has got the advantage that a noob is able to install any additional DE and than to chose what DE the noob would like to run for a session. What I don't like is that many useful configuration files nowadays are split into tons of configuration files and that there often are commands and GUIs that make it much more complicated, than reading a good Wiki and editing a configuration file directly. What I don't like is, that we have got a tendency to make things that were handled by scripts in the past, now becoming one big binary blob. Other OS have advantages and drawbacks, it's ok if we take a look to the advantages and if we copy those ideas, but it would be strange, if we make Linux a replacement for Windows. Nowadays Windows by default comes with a password login too and most users keep it as it is. They perhaps aren't aware that this might be an option that perhaps could be disabled by a GUI. Maybe openSUSE does still provide a super-GUI to handle all kind of configuration. In the past YaST could be used even to edit fstab, it was much more complicated to do it by the GUI, than doing it using an editor, but if people prefer to have it this way, than they need to chose the right distro. It's not easy to find the distro that fits best to individual needs. But Linux is Linux. I've got a lot of critic against some Linux things, but the issue mentioned here IMO isn't an issue, but an advantage. How far should we go? Should we help the user by "paternalism". iPad style? -- Oskar Sala - Elektronische Impressionen Nr. 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJoRIlb6kTs Firefox 19.0.2 doesn't need a Plugin to play the video. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user