On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 15:43 -1000, david wrote: > What I was always demanding when I was a kid near a McDonald's wasn't > the food specifically - I'd pretty much eat anything back then - but the > toys ... ;-) That's a good bridge. For me it was different. They had no toys when I was young, or at least I wasn't aware of it, but McDonalds was new, from a nation that was very impressing to for me, when I was a child, so I was interested to visit McDonalds and as a young adult it was very comfortable to have a drive in, that was opened at night, while anything else in Germany was closed. The bridge to Linux is, that today I'm not interested in audio engineering as a job, but I like to work with children. I already worked at to elementary schools. They have computers for the children and they are missing software for children. On all computers is Windows installed. When they searched for a good panting software I introduced Tux Paint, so the educators tested it at home and they were very impressed. I also recommended Edubuntu. The problem I was willing to maintain the computers for free as in beer, they were not interested. They didn't like the Windows software they had, they did like Tux Paint, but they did not install it, even not as a Windows version. One educator already tried to install Ubuntu on his machine, before he knows me, but installation failed, seemingly a hardware issue. They'll keep Windows, because it's on the computers, they install all kinds of crap, all kinds of virulent software, as long as it is common, even cracked, software. They 1. all don't trust the free software that is good and they 2. don't trust me and they won't trust you. They guess it could damage the computer. They guess you or I would be interested and able to get access to their office network, if we would install software to the children computers, that aren't connected to the office network. The adults aren't educated, but they educate children in using computers, especially regarding to security. My last boss was sued, because somebody else downloaded illegal music over her not bad encrypted wireless network. They have knowledge about didactic, but no knowledge about computers, so they know how imprinting does work and they know about their own bad experiences with Windows, so they make the children becoming Pavlov's Dogs regarding to computers: - The most safe OS and software is the latest version of Windows with even illegal copied software - Even the academic educators using this most safe software made bad experiences with using it (Windows), _from_ illegal downloads with non-protected or at least bad protected wireless network, _to_ female educators that had 3 bad ex-boyfriens, gotten to known by a social network (with Linux they guess it would be 6 bad ex-boyfriens) If it's for free, it must be evil. Why should people give something for free as in beer and in speech? Even something serious and trustful as Windows and it's software already is unsafe. And when I one time tried to install Ubuntu and it failed, that must be, because Linux is risky. Ok, we often hear from computer freaks that Linux is more safe, but a computer freak I trust helped me to make my Windows secure, but I still run into issues, it wasn't safe, so even the computer freak couldn't set up my Windows safe enough, that does mean something less known, giving less information than Windows, must be less secure. You've got no chance to educate those adults. Explain them that there's a community and that the source code is available (more information than for Windows), so there can't be something bad in the programs, they don't understand. They understand that open source code is more risky (wehn they nderstand that there is more information) than closed source code. You can give them the information how to learn them self that Linux is more secure, if they won't believe your words, but they won't learn, since the adults who make the children becoming Pavlov's Dogs are Pavlov's Dogs them self. They are caught in a paradox. First Linux is unsafe, because there is less information, than when they know more about Linux, it's unsafe, because there's too much information. It's not about facts, it's about emotions. And hey, haven't you seen the commercial for the current, best version ever, of IE? Alex Clare is such a cute man and "To close" is such a wonderful song. They never ever would go to McDonalds, because it's not hip to do it, but they don't reflect it, it's just a fashion. If it isn't McDonalds, they believe all the commercials. The female educators get wet panties when they listen and watch Alex Clare (don't call me sexist, when I simply say the truth) and hey current Microsoft commercials show me that I can set up Windows using different colour themes. I can make my Windows fit to my Ikea furniture, while Linux still does look like XP ... yes, thanks to all the computer magazines we've tons of "improved" Linux in Germany. The medias for those magazines often provide e.g. Debian, Suse, Ubuntu, but not by the original install media, they make own versions, it's not only that they sometimes make it look like XP, they also make tweaks that break the stability. IMO the Linux community shouldn't start to compete against Windows commercials. Windows does the "better" commercials, Alex Clair won't sing for Linux and even if we could pay him to do it, that's IMO against the idea of free as in speech. Linux anyway isn't a Windows replacement. People need education and you can't force them to learn, so what we need is time, they need to touch the hot cooktop again and again and they need to see, that we have less burned hands, than they've got. One day they will understand. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user