hi if ure use the graphics just on the lcd display, there isnt any problem right now with the ati graphics. f.i. etch runs out of the box. so should ubuntu ( ivent tested this) i dont like ati so much but this wouldnt affect my decisions comparing this with intel. m > > I would say that that thinkpad was a very solid machine. The r60s with > Intel graphics look good as well. Alas, current Thinkpads with ATI > graphics now use X1x00 chips, which I refuse to graple with. Some > current thinkpads use Intel graphics, which I would be happy with, but > they don't offer the best LCDs with Intel graphics. Still, they do > offer a nice 1400x1050 display, with Intel, which is better than I've > seen offered with Intel graphics from anyone else.