On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 09:33:07AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > On 10/13/05, Paul Davis <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 16:59 +0200, Cesare wrote: > > > I think that a clean solution to host vst plugins (at least the effects) > > > could be this : taking the wine approach (and maybe some code) and just > > > implement those calls that are relevant to audio plugins (file access > > > for loading and saving presets, math libraries etc.) without handling > > > graphics at all.We have the info for the effect parameters in the dll > > > and we can provide a standard interface (like the simpler vst effects in > > > cubase) to tweak parameters. > > > > > > Is this possible? > > > > absolutely not possible. > > > > I'll go even a bit further. VSts are Windows programs and they should > just work under Wine. Paul & Torben's time is probably better spent > elsewhere. > > I'd like to see every Linux Audio user interested in this subject > start pressing the Wine folks to support this themselves. Let's pay > attention to the Windows apps that can host VSTs and VSTi's. Acid Pro > is a commercial one that comes to mind. Fruity Loops, etc. There's got > to be free VST loaders out there for Windows. Older versions of Acid > install and run fine under Wine but do not handle VSTs very well. The > new versions don't install or run. > > Putting together yet another hack outside of Wine that will run for 1 > year and then die when gcc5 comes out would be disappointing. Let's > get the Wine folks to support this. > > Please enter apps in the Wine AppDB and enter test results in Wine's > Bugzilla. If there are enough of us entering 100's of apps then > they'll pay attention. Maybe not fast, but I believe they will. i still believe, that the current xfst approach is a clean solution. it does no more use the libwinelib hack. its a wine app which uses jack natively. i mailed it to several people who reported success IIRC. i mailed it to them because i dont have the time to open a sourceforge-project etc. for it. i thought that some of them would invest the time to make it available publicly. (paul, did you actually test it ? i know you dont have the time either, and as long as we dont provide some linker wrapper its not COMPLETE. ) but hey: it does not use the "pull wine into an app not knowing wine" approach. i dont have the time to (use my computer / write mail) very often. so someone should step forward and try to get xfst outthere soon. with webpage, README etc. xfst is a wine (not win) app which loads vsts and binds them to jack ports. i upload my current state to http://galan.sf.net/xfst-0.3.tar.gz please report success or failure in this thread. my response latency is very high. i am very sorry that galan cant load vsts currently. but hell it should load dssi plugs. -- torben Hohn http://galan.sourceforge.net -- The graphical Audio language
