torbenh@xxxxxx skrev: >On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 09:33:07AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > >>On 10/13/05, Paul Davis <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >>>On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 16:59 +0200, Cesare wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I think that a clean solution to host vst plugins (at least the effects) >>>>could be this : taking the wine approach (and maybe some code) and just >>>>implement those calls that are relevant to audio plugins (file access >>>>for loading and saving presets, math libraries etc.) without handling >>>>graphics at all.We have the info for the effect parameters in the dll >>>>and we can provide a standard interface (like the simpler vst effects in >>>>cubase) to tweak parameters. >>>> >>>>Is this possible? >>>> >>>> >>>absolutely not possible. >>> >>> >>> >>I'll go even a bit further. VSts are Windows programs and they should >>just work under Wine. Paul & Torben's time is probably better spent >>elsewhere. >> >>I'd like to see every Linux Audio user interested in this subject >>start pressing the Wine folks to support this themselves. Let's pay >>attention to the Windows apps that can host VSTs and VSTi's. Acid Pro >>is a commercial one that comes to mind. Fruity Loops, etc. There's got >>to be free VST loaders out there for Windows. Older versions of Acid >>install and run fine under Wine but do not handle VSTs very well. The >>new versions don't install or run. >> >>Putting together yet another hack outside of Wine that will run for 1 >>year and then die when gcc5 comes out would be disappointing. Let's >>get the Wine folks to support this. >> >>Please enter apps in the Wine AppDB and enter test results in Wine's >>Bugzilla. If there are enough of us entering 100's of apps then >>they'll pay attention. Maybe not fast, but I believe they will. >> >> > >i still believe, that the current xfst approach is a clean solution. >it does no more use the libwinelib hack. >its a wine app which uses jack natively. > >i mailed it to several people who reported success IIRC. > >i mailed it to them because i dont have the time to open a >sourceforge-project etc. for it. >i thought that some of them would invest the time to make it available >publicly. >(paul, did you actually test it ? i know you dont have the time either, >and as long as we dont provide some linker wrapper its not COMPLETE. ) > >but hey: it does not use the "pull wine into an app not knowing wine" >approach. > >i dont have the time to (use my computer / write mail) very often. > >so someone should step forward and try to get xfst outthere soon. >with webpage, README etc. > > > >xfst is a wine (not win) app which loads vsts and binds them to jack >ports. > >i upload my current state to http://galan.sf.net/xfst-0.3.tar.gz >please report success or failure in this thread. my response latency is >very high. > >i am very sorry that galan cant load vsts currently. >but hell it should load dssi plugs. > > > > > > seems that xfst fails to build for wine-20050930 it breaks with winebuild: unrecognized option --debug
