On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 00:55 +0100, Marek Peteraj wrote: > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 20:14, Ryan Gallagher wrote: > Linux users are still a minority and linux audio users > > an even smaller one, downright miniscule. We should try to stay "real" > > in estimating our tiny presence in this huge industry. > > Ok let's get this straight. ;) > > (why do we always underestimate ourselves) Come on... reality check. The mail lists for Avid->DigiDesign->Pro-Tools alone dwarf LAU. The linux-audio market isn't a fly-fart in sulfur mine to these 2nd tier companies (m-audio et. al.). They're competing for crumbs from the giant's (digidesign) lap anyway. > Suppose that each city and perhaps a fairly large town in the US and > Europe has got at least *one* linux audio user. > > Likely? I think so :) > > How much users would that be? Hundreds? More? Hundreds. And the money we (LAU's) spend on audio gear in a year per company wouldn't pay the salary of the person who pushes "send" on the "we don't plan support" emails for a month. > Now let's look at the "tiny" linux audio market. Ask everyone what unit > he has got. I bet it's going to be 2/3rd RME 1/3 Maudio. I'd venture to guess that if EVERY LAU signed a petition to support only one company in return for drivers/support... it'd mean nothing. To be honest, I'm grateful for any "support" official or otherwise we get. IMO it's a cheritible act for these profit driven (not meant in a negative way) manufacturers to spend/risk revenue on what is still largely a hobby OS (speaking of linux desktop/audio here only). > > 1) second the validity of your statements regarding OS representation > > (LAU is a pretty insular community, sometimes it feels bigger than it > > is) > > Sadly it's exactly the opposite. Bottom line, these companies are not stupid. They know where the money is, and it ain't on LAU. If it were, they'd be here too. -ry -- Ryan Gallagher <ruinaudio@xxxxxxxxxxx>