On 11/17/2017 11:51 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > David Kastrup <dak-mXXj517/zsQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> Robin Gareus >> <robin-+VlDMftONaMdnm+yROfE0A-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> writes: >> >>> On 11/17/2017 07:11 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >>>> Robert Edge >>>> <thumbknucklerocks-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> writes: >>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er7OeIFALN8 >>>> >>>> Ah, so "(region name)/edit/make mono regions" does not actually edit the >>>> region. Nor does it make it mono. Nor does it create mono tracks. But >>>> it adds two mono regions to the _region_ _list_ (which is rather >>>> inconspicuous and somewhere else on the screen, by default not at all) >>>> from where you can then fill newly created mono tracks. It doesn't >>>> bother mentioning what it does in something akin to Emacs' echo area, >>>> though: "copied mono regions to region list" would have been a great >>>> hint. It doesn't have some mouse-over help on "make mono regions" >>>> either. You arr on your own guessing what happens. >>>> >>>> Sorry, but that's _way_ worse in discoverability than current-day >>>> Emacs. Certainly nothing you could _discover_ on a demo. Either you >>>> know or you don't. >>>> >>> >>> Why even bother? just use the stereo panner and pan it all the way to >>> the left or right? >> >> Yeah, that gave me the correct left microphone on the left. And the >> correct right microphone on the left. At equal gain. >> >> As I said: there was not enough time to fiddle this in a strictly >> time-constrained demo. > > At any rate: we had already established that I am stupid: otherwise the > mics would not have been crosswired. The problem is that you need to be > really smart to figure out from scratch how to correct this with Ardour, > and there wasn't enough time and attention span to be really smart here. > > If you need a mailing list for using an application, there is no way to > improvise actually simple stuff under realtime constraints like in a > talk. > > I mean, fine, Ardour is great for making fun at others and > fingerpointing and feeling superior. And there is some appeal in that. > But frankly, I'm too old to be using software for that reason. > I had no such intention. Also please don't take it personally, like many authoring tools Ardour has a steep learning curve. You also would not be the first sound engineer that wrongly connects some mics.. I was just honestly curious why you wanted to separate a stereo track instead of using the panner or port-connections. Many users want the other way: Combine a two mono tracks to a stereo track for shared editing or FX (and there's likewise no simple way to do that in the editor alone, the tracks need to be a bounced). Track-groups are the preferred way for this for edit operations. subgroup-busses for FX. ciao, robin _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user