Thanks Keneth, I didn't know G-PPP uses the /home/USERNAME/.wvdial.conf for it's config. That's good to know. BTW, is it a security risk having the ISP details unencrypted in that file? Or is that what your fix does - stops the conf file being accessed from outside? Oh, for the record I did get the modem working. Found that I needed gksudo in front of the 'gnome-ppp' command too in my shortcuts to access it via the desktop. I had wondered previously what gksudo does. Is there a way to use this without having to enter a password? Or does the fix below do that? Regards Nick On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:28, Keneth W Jones <kjones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Joshua, > > To resolve the issue of running /usr/sbin/pppd (via wvdial or Gnome PPP) > as a non-sudo/regular user...is there anything wrong with doing the > following: > > First, > > Check to see if the group called dip exists on your system: > > $ cat /etc/group | grep "dip" > dip:x:30:hjones > > Per the above, the dip group exists on my system, and my USERNAME hjones > is a member of this group. > > If the dip group exists, but your USERNAME is not included in the dip > group run the following command: > > $ sudo gpasswd -a USERNAME dip > > > However; more than likely you will need to create the dip group, and add > your USERNAME to the dip group. So... > > Second, > > $ sudo groupadd -g 30 dip > $ sudo gpasswd -a USERNAME dip > > As a result, the file /etc/group will be updated with a line; e.g., > > dip:x:30:<USERNAME> > > Third, > > Set the group and permissions on /usr/sbin/pppd file so that any member > of the dip group can execute /usr/sbin/pppd. > > $ sudo chgrp dip /usr/sbin/pppd > $ sudo chmod u+s,o= /usr/sbin/pppd > > ..... > > Nick, FYI the wvdial program uses the /etc/wvdial.conf for its > configuration setting file which you already know. > > However, you may not know that Gnome PPP (the graphical front-end for > wvdial) uses a separate /home/USERNAME/.wvdial.conf for its > configuration setting file. > > So, if you're using Gnome PPP you need to be looking at .wvdial.conf in > your home directory (BTW: the dot before wvdial.conf means the file is > hidden in case you didn't know) to see what settings are in effect for > pppd. > > On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 09:20 +1100, Joshua Gordon Crawford wrote: > > On 25 March 2010 09:16, Nick <soapduk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Hi Joshua and list, > > > > > > I feel a little silly right about now, but also optimistic at the same time... > > > > > > You see, I was just reading a Ubuntu forum about the carrier check > > > issue and there someone asked if certain settings were on/off in > > > Gnome-PPP. Since I was using PPP I decided to have a look for such > > > settings, and there I saw the Carrier Check box ticked, even though I > > > had set it to off in wvdial.conf. Obviously PPP was overriding or > > > bypassing that option in wvdial. This is my mistake and I should have > > > mentioned I was using PPP. > > > > > > This is what now happens when I dial-up: > > > > > > --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60 > > > --> Initializing modem. > > > --> Sending: ATZ > > > ATZ > > > OK > > > --> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 > > > ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 > > > OK > > > --> Modem initialized. > > > --> Sending: ATM1L3DT086700006 > > > --> Waiting for carrier. > > > ATM1L3DT086700006 > > > CONNECT 50666 V44 > > > --> Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt. > > > ** Lucent APX Terminal Server ** > > > Login: > > > --> Carrier detected. Starting PPP immediately. > > > --> Unable to run /usr/sbin/pppd. > > > --> Check permissions, or specify a "PPPD Path" option in wvdial.conf. > > > > Wvdial can't hand over to pppd as a normal user. You need to run > > wvdial as root or with sudo. > > > > > ** Lucent APX Terminal Server ** > > > Login: Idle Timeout--> Looks like a login prompt. > > > --> Sending: USERNAME > > > USERNAME > > > Password: > > > --> Looks like a password prompt. > > > --> Sending: (password) > > > L2TP: Starting session > > > Primary server '203.97.60.34' > > > ~[7f]}#@!}!}!} }8}"}&} }*} } }#}$@#}%}&i[12]>P}'}"}(}"Ck~ > > > --> PPP negotiation detected. > > > --> Unable to run /usr/sbin/pppd. > > > --> Check permissions, or specify a "PPPD Path" option in wvdial.conf. > > > ~[7f]}#@!}!}"} }8}"}&} }*} } }#}$@#}%}&i[12]>P}'}"}(}" y~ > > > > > > And then it keeps repeating those bottom 4 lines over and over. > > > > > > If I try stupid mode it or a combination of the two it only says this: > > > > > > --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60 > > > --> Initializing modem. > > > --> Sending: ATZ > > > ATZ > > > OK > > > --> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 > > > ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 > > > OK > > > --> Modem initialized. > > > --> Sending: ATM1L3DT086700006 > > > --> Waiting for carrier. > > > ATM1L3DT086700006 > > > CONNECT 50666 V44 > > > --> Carrier detected. Starting PPP immediately. > > > --> Unable to run /usr/sbin/pppd. > > > --> Check permissions, or specify a "PPPD Path" option in wvdial.conf. > > > ** Lucent APX Terminal Server ** > > > Login: Idle Timeout > > > > > > As for noise the phone line sounds crystal clear. I tried pulling out > > > the ADSL from the phone line but it's the same result. > > > > > > I don't know what a PPPD Path option is. If anyone has any clues as to > > > whereabouts to go from here I would be grateful. > > > > Looks good from here on. Just the permissions issue with pppd. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 16:26, Joshua Gordon Crawford > > > <jgcrawford@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> > > >> On 23 March 2010 06:53, Nick <soapduk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> > Hi Joshua, > > >> > > > >> > Sorry for my late reply, > > >> > > > >> > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 00:16, Joshua Gordon Crawford > > >> > <jgcrawford@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> It seems at this point that the driver is working correctly, and we're > > >> >> left with a line quality issue. > > >> >> > > >> >> When you use the phone on that line, does it sound noisy (crackly, > > >> >> windy, etc)? Are there other phones or devices connected to the line, > > >> >> in other rooms, etc? Can you test with a different line, e.g. at a > > >> >> friend's house? > > >> >> > > >> >> Is the modem new or used? I had to replace a modem a few years back > > >> >> because _it_ had become noisy and couldn't hold the carrier. > > >> > > > >> > The modem isn't new, but it would have been new when this computer was > > >> > purchased. Is there a way to find out if this one has become noisy? > > >> > > >> You might be able to hear it when the modem dials. > > >> > > >> > No the line doesn't sound noisy. I had my ADSL and another phone > > >> > plugged into the same jack, which I have now removed, but I'm still > > >> > getting the errors. In fact, I've just removed all the devices in the > > >> > house connected. Actually there is an alarm here that connects to the > > >> > phone line - don't know if that affects it, or how to disconnect it. I > > >> > haven't tried a friend's house but will see if I can do that. > > >> > > >> Any other device on the line could be causing some noise. I don't know > > >> how ADSL filtering might affect 56k modems. > > >> > > >> > it looks as though there is another error here, the Login x3 and > > >> > Password Idle Timeout: > > >> > > > >> > ATM1L3DT086700006 > > >> > CONNECT 50666 V44 > > >> > --> Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt. > > >> > --> Connected, but carrier signal lost! Retrying... > > >> > --> Sending: ATM1L3DT086700006 > > >> > --> Waiting for carrier. > > >> > ** Lucent APX Terminal Server ** > > >> > Login: > > >> > Login: > > >> > Login: > > >> > Login: ATM1L3DT086700006 > > >> > Password: Idle Timeout > > >> > --> Timed out while dialing. Trying again. > > >> > --> Sending: ATM1L3DT086700006 > > >> > --> Waiting for carrier. > > >> > NO CARRIER > > >> > ATM1L3DT086700006 > > >> > --> No Carrier! Trying again. > > >> > --> Sending: ATM1L3DT086700006 > > >> > --> Waiting for carrier. > > >> > NO CARRIER > > >> > ATM1L3DT086700006 > > >> > --> No Carrier! Trying again. > > >> > --> Maximum Attempts Exceeded..Aborting!! > > >> > --> Disconnecting at Tue Mar 23 08:39:03 2010 > > >> > > > >> > or does that relate to the existing 'No Carrier' problem? > > >> > > >> Yes. Wvdial tries to dial again when the ISP is waiting for a > > >> password. The "Carrier Check = No" option is supposed to handle that. > > >> > > >> If you can, test the modem in Windows and see what its log says. > > >> > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >>> A slightly off-topic question: I note that the modem wasn't detected > > >> >>> when I rebooted just now. Is it advisable to run wvdialconf as a > > >> >>> startup 'script'? > > >> >> > > >> >> The driver needs to be loaded after each reboot, and the symlink > > >> >> created. For now you can do that manually by running agrsm-test, but > > >> >> later it can be automated. > > >> >> > > >> >> Quoting agrsm_howto.txt (in the source directory): > > >> >> > > >> >> Automation - Do NOT do this until full functionality of the modem is > > >> >> achieved, or testing the issues will be confused. The following SINGLE LINE > > >> >> can be added (depending upon your Linux distro) to /etc/modprobe.conf or > > >> >> (Debian/Ubuntu) a file with folder /etc/modprobe.d/, perhaps > > >> >> /etc/modprobe.d/agrsm.conf > > >> >> > > >> >> install agrserial modprobe --ignore-install agrmodem ; modprobe > > >> >> --ignore-install agrserial ; test -e /dev/ttyAGS3 ; ln -s /dev/ttyAGS3 > > >> >> /dev/ttySAGR ; ln -s /dev/ttyAGS3 /dev/modem > > >> >> > > >> >> <end quote> > > >> >> > > >> >> The howto then implies you need to modprobe agrserial manually each > > >> >> time you boot, but that can also be done automatically, by adding > > >> >> agrserial to /etc/modules. > > >> > > > >> > OK, thanks. > > >> > > > >> > Nick > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> Joshua Crawford ... http://geocities.com/mortarn > > >> >> > > >> >> http://www.rewardscentral.com.au/Join/Default.aspx?refer=mortarn > > >> >> Be rewarded! 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