Re: Softmodem modem support, Linuxant and other.

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Fax is still required for legal contracts, hence, my one and only need for it.  
I do not ever forsee a time when it won't be a requirement.

On Tuesday 06 October 2009 11:39:04 pm Marvin Stodolsky wrote:
> Fax capability is supported by several of the winmodem chips under Linux.
> This includes Conexants, pctel, Smartlink (but not the slmodemd + ALSA
> driver combinations), older Agere chips, an ESS, some Motorola and
> likely others I don't explicitly remember.
> The Linux distros decreasingly concerned with winmodems, as usage of
> faster modalities becomes dominant,
> so the modem volunteers are always in catchup role, with emerging kernels.
> 
> Also fax is likely of decreasing significance, with the continued
> development of PDF formats, as a commercial medium
> 
> MarvS
> 
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Roland Hughes
> 
> <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Ummm....the free stuff is modem only, it provides no fax capability.  I
> > believe the original poster wanted fax capability.
> >
> > On Tuesday 06 October 2009 06:42:58 pm Marvin Stodolsky wrote:
> >> This is a mis-understanding:
> >> -----------------------------------------------
> >> RE: Connexant commercial drivers are available for certain modem
> >> chipsets, just not Intel.  They are also kernel specific, so when you
> >> automatically update a kernel, you need to buy a new driver.
> >> -----------------------------------------------
> >> WWW.Linuxant.com  supports diverse Conexant chipsets, from ancient
> >> Legacy designs to the newert chips hosted on High Definition Audio
> >> cards.  The hsfmodem code packages at the bottom of
> >> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/downloads.php
> >> can be compiled with resources for any Linux kernel release.  But
> >> additionally, Linuxant provides the nice service of compiling drivers
> >> matched with emerging kernels of the more popular distros.  Purchase
> >> of the software key enabling full speed service, also provides for
> >> free updates to emerging kernels.  One certainly does NOT have to pay
> >> for support for each new kernel.
> >>
> >> The major problem with maintaining modem services is the component of
> >> the modem code, pre-compiled (and thus encrypted) by the chip
> >> manufacture.  This Closed Source protects (whether we like it or not)
> >> the chip makers most crucial Proprietary Information.   This Closed
> >> Source component cannot as a consequence be debugged/optimized against
> >> evolving Linux code.
> >> Nethertheless, volunteers associated with this List (for various
> >> periods) have able to keep a variety of modems functional, for routine
> >> dialup connections and also fax services for many of them.  It isn't
> >> an issue of the capabilities of diverse contributors/maintainers, but
> >> rather that the Linux debug toolset cannot work with Closed Source
> >> code. Moreover some chip manufacturers have over the years provided
> >> updates of the Closed Source component.
> >>
> >> Certainly the best solution if a modem is essential for one's CONNECT
> >> to the Internet, is to buy a Controller Chipset modem
> >> (which may be external or internal) and is supported by Open Source
> >> Linux code.  But for those with laptops, and poorer/foreign Users,
> >> this is not a feasible solution.  To compensate, many of we List
> >> participants do whatever is possible to aid Linux newbies.
> >>
> >> MarvS
> >> scanModem maintainer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Jacques Goldberg
> >>
> >> <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > Denbigh,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Here are several constructive suggestions:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > You can FAX with kernel 2.6.28-11 - this proves that your modem driver
> >> > works, THUS:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > First suggestion: no need to buy any hardware nor software, beware of
> >> > panic generators.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Second suggestion: think well, do you REALLY need a newer kernel?
> >> > Can't you stick to 2.6.28.-11 until an automatic installer for
> >> > 2.6.28-15 will become available?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Third suggestion: trust the experimental physicist who writes to you
> >> > here. Work step by step to set up your PPP connection. With kernel
> >> > 2.6.28-11, use wvdial first, not yet GnomePPP (which as far as I
> >> > remember itself uses wvdial), to debug your connections. wvdialconf,
> >> > the configuration tool going with wvdial, will set up the strings, but
> >> > much more important, it gives debugging information (hidden by more
> >> > "friendly" commands such as GnomePPP).
> >> >
> >> > Once wvdial will work, you can play with GUI's such as GnomePPP -- if
> >> > you have nothing better to do : I use wvdial since Fall of year 2000
> >> > and have not yet felt the need to waste one minute for anything else.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The key question is of course, do you absolutely need kernel
> >> > 2.6.28-15? This is an insisting question to a novice: the file which
> >> > you have installed for your modem needs to be generated for 2.6.28-15,
> >> > which is not straightforward for a novice, even may seem frightening
> >> > the first time you do it. Some people believe that they always need
> >> > the last version, immediately. Some think that what counts is to be
> >> > able to do their work (I belong to that second category, since 1961:
> >> > take a look at http://cern.ch, see what frontier science is doing,
> >> > most of us using kernel 2.6.9, soon moving to 2.6.18 , not 28, not 31,
> >> > because we have other concerns than "having the most recent one").
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Also, unfortunately, from time to time some novice advisors pop up in
> >> > this discussion, eventually  fooling people like you in need of
> >> > support for a 2.6.28 kernel with their own problem with for example
> >> > 2.6.31, scaring you with the need to buy another modem while your own
> >> > works fine, and quoting prices in units of thousands of dollars while
> >> > all you need is offred free to you - except perhaps your time invested
> >> > in asking yourself what exactly you need, in this case which kernel.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Jacques
> >> >
> >> > denbigh1974@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >> >> Hello
> >> >>
> >> >> I posted here
> >> >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1277358
> >> >> to explain my problem but the thread ran out of steam. I was hoping
> >> >> that perhaps you could assist?
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a p.c. with an Intel 537EP faxmodem card installed in a PCI
> >> >> slot. I want to use this to send out faxes from my desktop and
> >> >> preferably to use with GnomePPP also.
> >> >>
> >> >> The p.c. dual boots into Windows XP (where I am experienced) or
> >> >> Ubuntu 9.04 (where I am a complete novice). In Windows, my modem is
> >> >> detected on COM3
> >> >>
> >> >> I booted up into Ubuntu and ran scanModem. Here is an extract from
> >> >> the resulting ModemData.txt file:
> >> >>
> >> >> For candidate card in slot 03:01.0, firmware information and bootup
> >> >> diagnostics are:
> >> >> PCI slot    PCI ID        SubsystemID    Name
> >> >> ----------    ---------    ---------    --------------
> >> >> 03:01.0    8086:1080    8086:1000    Modem: Intel Corporation
> >> >> FA82537EP 56K V.92 Data/Fax Modem PCI
> >> >>
> >> >> Modem interrupt assignment and sharing:
> >> >> 17:       2974          0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   Intel ICH5, serial
> >> >> --- Bootup diagnostics for card in PCI slot 03:01.0 ----
> >> >> [    0.455494] pci 0000:03:01.0: reg 10 32bit mmio:
> >> >> [0xfeaff000-0xfeafffff]
> >> >> [    0.455501] pci 0000:03:01.0: reg 14 io port: [0xbc00-0xbcff]
> >> >> [    0.455536] pci 0000:03:01.0: PME# supported from D0 D3hot D3cold
> >> >> [    0.455541] pci 0000:03:01.0: PME# disabled
> >> >> [    1.505776] serial 0000:03:01.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low)
> >> >> -> IRQ 17
> >> >> [    1.505908] 0000:03:01.0: ttyS1 at I/O 0xbc08 (irq = 17) is a
> >> >> 16450 [    1.505989] 0000:03:01.0: ttyS2 at I/O 0xbc10 (irq = 17) is
> >> >> a 8250 [    1.506071] 0000:03:01.0: ttyS3 at I/O 0xbc18 (irq = 17) is
> >> >> a 16450 [    1.506096] Couldn't register serial port 0000:03:01.0:
> >> >> -28
> >> >>
> >> >> The PCI slot 03:01.0 of the modem card may be disabled early in
> >> >> a bootup process,  but then enabled later. If modem drivers load
> >> >> but the  modem is not responsive, read DOCs/Bootup.txt about possible
> >> >> fixes.
> >> >> Send dmesg.txt along with ModemData.txt to discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> if help is needed.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> === Finished firmware and bootup diagnostics, next deducing cogent
> >> >> software. ===
> >> >>
> >> >> Predictive  diagnostics for card in bus 03:01.0:
> >> >>   Modem chipset  detected on
> >> >> NAME="Modem: Intel Corporation FA82537EP 56K V.92 Data/Fax Modem PCI
> >> >> " CLASS=0703
> >> >> PCIDEV=8086:1080
> >> >> SUBSYS=8086:1000
> >> >> IRQ=17
> >> >> IDENT=INTEL537EP
> >> >>
> >> >> For candidate modem in:  03:01.0
> >> >>  0703 Modem: Intel Corporation FA82537EP 56K V.92 Data/Fax Modem PCI
> >> >>     Primary device ID:  8086:1080
> >> >> Support type needed or chipset:    INTEL537EP
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I downloaded and installed the 537EP driver (deb file, I don't know
> >> >> how to compile tar files yet) from
> >> >>
> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntu-modems/web/modem-driver-downloa
> >> >>ds- for-537ep
> >> >>
> >> >> I have now managed to get Efax-gtk working with the modem if I use
> >> >> Ubuntu 9.04 kernel 2.6.28-11. It doesn't work with kernel 2.6.28-15.
> >> >>
> >> >> I had to play experiment with different init strings and hardware
> >> >> parameters before it would work in Ubuntu 9.04 kernel 2.6.28-11. If I
> >> >> use the following Efax-gtk settings, I can successfully send a fax:
> >> >>
> >> >> IDENTITY
> >> >> CSID name and number as necessary
> >> >>
> >> >> MODEM
> >> >> Serial Device: 537
> >> >> Lock file: /var/lock
> >> >> Capabilities: 1,5,0,2,0,0,0,0
> >> >> Rings: 2
> >> >> Modem Class: Class 2
> >> >> Dial Mode: Tone
> >> >>
> >> >> PARAMS
> >> >> Initialisation Params: Z &F&D2&C1&K3S7 &K3 (copied these from Windows
> >> >> XP) Reset Params: Z
> >> >> Other Params:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I can also get wvdial to dial out if my wvdial.conf file is edited as
> >> >> follows:
> >> >>
> >> >> [Dialer Defaults]
> >> >> Modem = /dev/537
> >> >> Baud = 9600
> >> >> Init1 = ATZ
> >> >> Init2 = AT&F&D2&C1&K3S7=55
> >> >> Init3 = AT&K3
> >> >> Phone = 08450792829
> >> >> Username = Steve
> >> >> Password = ********
> >> >> # New PPPD = yes
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> What I can't do is get Gnome PPP to recognise /dev/537. When I run
> >> >> Gnome PPP the init strings are different from those in wvdial.conf
> >> >> and the modem can't be found. I can't modify the default the init 2
> >> >> string in Gnome PPP and when I test for a modem none can be found.
> >> >>
> >> >> I just wondered if you had any suggestions, please? (I am a beginner
> >> >> so would appreciate cut-and-paste text to insert into Nautilus.)
> >> >>
> >> >> Many thanks
> >> >> Steve Francis
> >
> > --
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> > Logikal Solutions
> > (630)-205-1593  (cell)
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> 

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