I think bridging is the best and simplest method. Bridging allows for multiple interfaces in the same subnet while all other solutions assume a 2 interface scenario only. Proxy ARP is a better if you want to implement firewalling. Either you can set this up by hand or implement using parprouted (google to find location) which is normally used to implement bridging in a wireless network where MAC addresses cannot be propogated. Mohan -----Original Message----- From: lartc-admin@mailman.ds9a.nl [mailto:lartc-admin@mailman.ds9a.nl]On Behalf Of Daniel Egger Sent: 31 December 2002 04:34 To: Gilles Douillet Cc: lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl Subject: RE: [LARTC] QoS (HTB) without IP address Am Mon, 2002-12-30 um 21.36 schrieb Gilles Douillet: > But if I wat to manage it remotely, AND if I have NO ip available (cause > netmask is 255.255.255.252), can I have a third interface, not put it brctl > and assign an IP of the private network (IP from RFC 1918) normally the > bridge software should ignore it and I can put a nice Apache with RRD Tool, > with MRTG, with any other nice tool to monitor bandwith and connections ? Forget the bridging junk. Pick an ipaddress, assign it to both interfaces and make sure you configure iptables to FORWARD traffic comming from either side to the other. Additionally you can setup whatever sort of traffic shaping you desire and/or implement a transparent proxy. -- Daniel Egger <egger@spotnic.de> _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/