>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> According to this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/0d1de2d901f4ba0972a3886496a44fb1d3300dbd >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It looks like kvm have been supporting x2apic since kernel 2.6.32, or >>>>>>>> even earlier. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> This patch is to emulate x2apic for guest, then guest can benefit from some advantages of x2apic, like using RDMSR/WRMSR instead of mmio. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, this following patch: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/8d14695f9542e9e0195d6e41ddaa52c32322adf5 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also claims that adding support for x2apic. But this later patch was >>>>>>>> for kernel 3.9. >>>>>>> This patch is to support virtual x2apic mode, which can virtualizing MSR-based APIC accesses by configuring MSR bitmaps, >>>>>>> you can specify some MSR-based accesses without VM exit, the other MSR-based accesses with VM exit, >>>>>>> which belongs to APIC virtualization from certain angle. >>>>>> Thanks Haoyu, I am reading the Intel x2apic manual. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/specification-update/64-architecture-x2apic-specification.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> but I don't see the so called "virtual x2apic mode", it seems that the >>>>>> manual does not mention anything about that. Do you mean that when the >>>>>> Guest OS sets bit 10 (x2apic mode enable bit) of the it virtualized >>>>>> IA32_APIC_BASE MSR, it is entering a virtual x2apic mode? But isn't >>>>>> this the same as the aforementioned "emulate x2apic for guest"? Or, >>>>>> "emulate x2apic for guest" is the foundation of "support virtual >>>>>> x2apic mode"? >>>>>> >>>>>> -Jidong >>>>>> >>>>>Oh, I found the answer, the virtualized x2apic mode is not defined in >>>>>the x2apic manual, but is defined in the intel SDM manual, chapter 29 >>>>>- APIC virtualization and virtual interrupts. Ignore my questions >>>>>please, but thank you anyway. >>>>> >>>> Yes, virtual x2apic mode is part of APICv. >>>> Guest has no idea about it is running in a virtual machine, >>>> VMM also prevent guest from enabling/disabling virtual x2apic mode or some other virtualization configurations. >>>> >>> >>>Regarding this "VMM also prevent guest from enabling/disabling virtual >>>x2apic mode", do you mean that guest is not allowed to do something >>>like: >>> >>>Assuming we are in the guest, and we see the original value of the >>>IA32_APICBASE MSR is 0xfee00900, which means EN bit and BSP bit was >>>enabled. And now, we try to set bit 10 (EXTD bit): >>> >>>wrmsr 0x1b 0xfee00d00. >>> >>>Do you mean this wrmsr operation is not allowed? If fact, I tried >>>this, and this simply crashes the guest kernel. (I am using Linux >>>2.6.34 as the guest kernel, and Linux 3.14 as the host kernel.) And >>>this is the exact reason that I initialized this whole discussion. My >>>feeling is this might be a kvm bug, so I wish to figure out and try to >>>fix it. >>> >> The MSR address range 800H through BFFH is architecturally reserved and dedicated for accessing APIC registers in x2APIC mode, >> you are writing the wrong MSR address. >> Please see SDN 3A 10.12.1.2 x2APIC Register Address Space, you will get the answer. >> >Oh, I was writing to 0x1b, which is the address of IA32_APIC_BASE MSR. >In particular I was trying to write bit 10, which is the x2APIC >enable/disable bit. As I said, I just wish to enable that x2APIC. The >original value 0xfee00900 suggests x2APIC is not enabled, i.e., bit 10 >is 0. According to SDM manual, this bit has to be 1 if we want to >enable x2APIC. > Sorry, I misread it. Please try u64 val; rdmsrl(0x0000001b, val); if ( !(val & (1UL << 10)) ) wrmsrl(0x0000001b, val | (1UL << 10)); If the crash still happened, maybe other settings is needed, like switching apic to physical x2apic, I'm not sure. Please report the crash message. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I am very confused: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> First, what's the difference between these two patches? Or say, does >>>>>>>> kvm support x2apic since kernel 2.6.32, or since kernel 3.9? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> kvm support x2apic since kernel 2.6.32, but not support virtual x2apic mode until kernel 3.9. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Second, can guest use x2apic even if the host does not? (Assuming qemu >>>>>>>>has exposed this feature to guest.) The word "use" means something >>>>>>>> like, accessing x2apic registers, setting the x2apic enable bit in >>>>>>>> IA32_APICBASE MSR (i.e. bit 10). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, you can use x2apic even if the PCPU does not support, and benefit from it, like performance bonus from MSR accesses instead of MMIO. >>>>>>> But, if I remember correctly, if your guest does not support interrupt-remmping, you only can use physical destination mode when using x2apic, >>>>>>> please see enable_IR_x2apic(). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Jidong -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html