On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Zhang Haoyu <zhanghy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> According to this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/0d1de2d901f4ba0972a3886496a44fb1d3300dbd >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It looks like kvm have been supporting x2apic since kernel 2.6.32, or >>>>>>> even earlier. >>>>>>> >>>>>> This patch is to emulate x2apic for guest, then guest can benefit from some advantages of x2apic, like using RDMSR/WRMSR instead of mmio. >>>>>> >>>>>>> However, this following patch: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/8d14695f9542e9e0195d6e41ddaa52c32322adf5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also claims that adding support for x2apic. But this later patch was >>>>>>> for kernel 3.9. >>>>>> This patch is to support virtual x2apic mode, which can virtualizing MSR-based APIC accesses by configuring MSR bitmaps, >>>>>> you can specify some MSR-based accesses without VM exit, the other MSR-based accesses with VM exit, >>>>>> which belongs to APIC virtualization from certain angle. >>>>> Thanks Haoyu, I am reading the Intel x2apic manual. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/specification-update/64-architecture-x2apic-specification.pdf >>>>> >>>>> but I don't see the so called "virtual x2apic mode", it seems that the >>>>> manual does not mention anything about that. Do you mean that when the >>>>> Guest OS sets bit 10 (x2apic mode enable bit) of the it virtualized >>>>> IA32_APIC_BASE MSR, it is entering a virtual x2apic mode? But isn't >>>>> this the same as the aforementioned "emulate x2apic for guest"? Or, >>>>> "emulate x2apic for guest" is the foundation of "support virtual >>>>> x2apic mode"? >>>>> >>>>> -Jidong >>>>> >>>>Oh, I found the answer, the virtualized x2apic mode is not defined in >>>>the x2apic manual, but is defined in the intel SDM manual, chapter 29 >>>>- APIC virtualization and virtual interrupts. Ignore my questions >>>>please, but thank you anyway. >>>> >>> Yes, virtual x2apic mode is part of APICv. >>> Guest has no idea about it is running in a virtual machine, >>> VMM also prevent guest from enabling/disabling virtual x2apic mode or some other virtualization configurations. >>> >> >>Regarding this "VMM also prevent guest from enabling/disabling virtual >>x2apic mode", do you mean that guest is not allowed to do something >>like: >> >>Assuming we are in the guest, and we see the original value of the >>IA32_APICBASE MSR is 0xfee00900, which means EN bit and BSP bit was >>enabled. And now, we try to set bit 10 (EXTD bit): >> >>wrmsr 0x1b 0xfee00d00. >> >>Do you mean this wrmsr operation is not allowed? If fact, I tried >>this, and this simply crashes the guest kernel. (I am using Linux >>2.6.34 as the guest kernel, and Linux 3.14 as the host kernel.) And >>this is the exact reason that I initialized this whole discussion. My >>feeling is this might be a kvm bug, so I wish to figure out and try to >>fix it. >> > The MSR address range 800H through BFFH is architecturally reserved and dedicated for accessing APIC registers in x2APIC mode, > you are writing the wrong MSR address. > Please see SDN 3A 10.12.1.2 x2APIC Register Address Space, you will get the answer. > Oh, I was writing to 0x1b, which is the address of IA32_APIC_BASE MSR. In particular I was trying to write bit 10, which is the x2APIC enable/disable bit. As I said, I just wish to enable that x2APIC. The original value 0xfee00900 suggests x2APIC is not enabled, i.e., bit 10 is 0. According to SDM manual, this bit has to be 1 if we want to enable x2APIC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I am very confused: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First, what's the difference between these two patches? Or say, does >>>>>>> kvm support x2apic since kernel 2.6.32, or since kernel 3.9? >>>>>>> >>>>>> kvm support x2apic since kernel 2.6.32, but not support virtual x2apic mode until kernel 3.9. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Second, can guest use x2apic even if the host does not? (Assuming qemu >>>>>>>has exposed this feature to guest.) The word "use" means something >>>>>>> like, accessing x2apic registers, setting the x2apic enable bit in >>>>>>> IA32_APICBASE MSR (i.e. bit 10). >>>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, you can use x2apic even if the PCPU does not support, and benefit from it, like performance bonus from MSR accesses instead of MMIO. >>>>>> But, if I remember correctly, if your guest does not support interrupt-remmping, you only can use physical destination mode when using x2apic, >>>>>> please see enable_IR_x2apic(). >>>>>> >>>>>>> -Jidong > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html