Bertin wrote: >The password is stored elsewhere, presumably in some secure storage >managed by the NM and changes are made via a privileged helper >launched by the KDE Daemon (kded). That one isn't running when you're >not logged in, nor is the KDE wallet daemon, which means a KDE wallet >cannot be required for connecting to a WiFi network at boot... Thanks for that clue. I think my problem was that, although I was following directions, I was doing it while KDE was running. Running from a simple command line without KDE seems to have solved it. # nmcli c modify ${name} 802-11-wireless-security.psk "password" \ 802-11-wireless-security.psk-flags 0 After booting and before starting KDE (which I do using startx because I like seeing boot messages), the connection is up. And still up after KDE is running. No wallet impact at all. -- Dave Close, Compata, Irvine CA +1 714 434 7359 dave@xxxxxxxxxxx dhclose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "There are now so many exceptions to the Fourth Amendment that it operates only by accident." --William Hugh Murray, 2013