On Wednesday February 22 2023 01:54:12 Dave T wrote: I just use Plasma4 for the desktop shell; KDEPIM aside which I've also kept on one of the last 4.1x versions I've built my own updates of the KDE applications I use regularly. Not that those are especially up-to-date :) To think that years ago I picked an Ubuntu derivative because it's based on Debian which I thought would give me rolling updates. I've seen how cumbersome major updates can be (I maintain a Devuan install on my partner's laptop)... >the finger at my hardware (nvidia GPU) plus the the transition from >X.org to wayland. I really hope there's nothing compulsory about that! R.