I think you have missed some of the earlier posts. Yes the slowness is down to searches for the server - the dolphin technique avoids them. That's the only point I am making and advocating that kde open up the path for other than kde apps to use. Having messed with desktop file excessively it looks like "you can only select local file" is hard wired into the kde software. I have completely disabled IPV6 where I can for the simple reason that the dns service is so slow via tunneling that it makes a system virtually unusable on the web. Unfortunately one app on opensuse may still be using it. Haven't checked fully yet. I don't think what I have seen in vista has anything to do with teredo. It looks to be preparing to use either ipv6 or ipv4 as needed. It also grades the performance. ;-) My ipv6 is marginal - they are correct in that respect. If the app waits long enough it works. Curiously it was somewhat quicker some years ago when it was implemented in the kerenel. eg It would load an ebay page but might take over a min to do it. Basically vista looks to be way ahead of where current linux disto's are. The kernel will do either and that's as far as it goes. No comment on fwvm. I use kde. and also this is a kde mailing list. I shouldn't use it to bleat about anything other than kde. Anyway no more posts from me on this subject John ----- Original Message ---- > From: Charles Polisher <cpolish@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sun, 29 May, 2011 21:27:36 > Subject: Re: Kaffeine and playing files from off the local network > > John Woodhouse wrote: > > > The paths I am trying to use do work on kde and do not require explicit >mounting > > > and are extremely easy to set up but aren't allowed to work. There doesn't >seem > > > to be any logical reason for this. The connection unlike samba etc which is > > amazingly slow is also set up immediately and access is just like using a >local > > > disc - again unlike samba the first time it's used from within an >application. > > > Even working down a series if directories is amazingly slow at this point. > > Sounds suspiciously like a DNS problem (the long delays). > Standard troubleshooting woulkd include resolving the various > hostnames using the "host" command, dig, and ping. It should > only consume a few minutes to check. > > While you're at the network layer, capture a network trace using > e.g. wireshark. Consult the menu item Analyze->Expert Info, > anything in yellow or red could be of interest. Under the > View->Time Display Format menu item choose "display offset from > previously captured packet". Any large unexpected delays would be > red flags. > > > The other one relates to backends etc and ipv6. While nosing around on Vista >I > > > found an interesting window that suggests that it's capable of determining >for > > > it self just how usable ipv6 is and automatically selecting either ipv4 or 6 >as > > > needed. It's not perfect as I set up an ipv6 dns service ip via my router >and > > > it's using it for ipv4 and left the space for an ipv6 dns service blank. One > > > thing for sure though it's more ready than linux is where ok the kernel will >do > > > either but that's it. Distro's are even sent out set up to use ipv6 by >default.. > > > Pointless given the number of available ipv6 servers. The main aspect here >is > > > that windozeis far more ipv6 ready than linux distro's are. > > Windows IPv6 networking is *ahem* crap. If you're interested, > try starting out with >http://packetpushers.net/show-43-microsoft-teredo-is-crap/ > or for the gory details http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2011-04/teredo.html > or Google for Teredo (Microsoft's IPv6 stack implmentation). > > But you raise an interesting point. Could an IPv4/IPv6 > interaction be causing mischief? Try disabling IPv6 (Google for > it) and see if that affects the issue. I do not suggest that you > permanently disable IPv6. > > > Basically the middle layer between the kernel and the desktop isn't >functionally > > > evolving at all. All that is happing is different ways are being used to >achieve > > > exactly the same thing. It's also possible to use the same argument against > > desktops themselves. > > Earlier in the thread someone made a comment about power desktop > users. AFAIKT, the real power users - I'm not claiming to be > one of them - customize fwvm and have it jump through every hoop > they care to think of. That takes pressure off the Gnome / KDE / > whatever ecosystem. Maybe that lack of pressure has harmed > things. Anyway, if you're attempting to play mp3's and 4's, does > mplayer do the job? > > Best regards, > -- > Charles Polisher > > > ___________________________________________________ > This message is from the kde mailing list. > Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. > Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. > More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html. > ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.