Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-iesg-nomcom-eligibility-2020-00.txt> (Eligibility for the 2020-2021 Nominating Committee) to Best Current Practice

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On 4/2/2020 2:31 PM, Barry Leiba wrote:
Hi, Adrian, and thanks for the response.

If we have to form a recall committee in the period before we have worked
out a long-term solution, I presume the same rules will apply. I think it
would be wise to fill this hole now because if we need it (which we won't)
then we'll need to sort it out in a real hurry.
Given that the recall process in BCP 10 explicitly refers to the
NomCom eligibility and process, I think that what's important is to be
clear that the scope of this document does include anything that's
tied to that process.  So how about this instead?:

Abstract
OLD
    This document only affects the seating of the
    2020-2021 NomCom, and does not set a precedent for the future.
NEW
    This document only affects the seating of the
    2020-2021 NomCom and any rules that relate to the
    NomCom process before IETF 108, and does not set a
    precedent for the future.
END

Section 1
OLD
    The 2020-2021 Nominating Committee (NomCom) needs to be formed
    between IETF 107 and IETF 108, and the issue of eligibility of who
    can serve on that NomCom needs clarification: a one-time
    interpretation of the eligibility rules is required for this
    particular exceptional situation, given the tight timeframe for
    seating this year's NomCom.
NEW
    The 2020-2021 Nominating Committee (NomCom) needs to be formed
    between IETF 107 and IETF 108, and the issue of eligibility of who
    can serve on that NomCom needs clarification: a one-time
    interpretation of the eligibility rules is required for this
    particular exceptional situation.  That interpretation will apply
    to the seating of that NomCom and to any rules that relate
    to the NomCom process before IETF 108.
END

Section 3
OLD
    This update is an emergency interpretation of the intent of BCP 10
    for this current exceptional situation only, and applies only to the
    2020-2021 NomCom, which is expected to be seated prior to IETF 108.
    It will explicitly not apply to any future NomCom and does not set
    precedent: another update to BCP 10 will be necessary to address
    future eligibility, as there will be time for proper community work
    on such an update.
NEW
    This update is an emergency interpretation of the intent of BCP 10
    for this current exceptional situation only, and applies only to the
    2020-2021 NomCom, which is expected to be seated prior to IETF 108,
    and to any rules that relate to the NomCom process before IETF 108.
    It will explicitly not apply to any future NomCom and does not set
    precedent: another update to BCP 10 will be necessary to address
    future eligibility, as there will be time for proper community work
    on such an update.
END


Looking at the above - perhaps this is better done as a combination of permanent and temporary changes to BCP 10?

One permanent item maybe - or at least something that lets us deal with various possibilities temporarily:

"For the purposes of calculating terms and dates of the Nomcom and positions selected by the Nomcom, including the formation of any recall committee or Nomcom requirement to select mid-term replacements 'end of First meeting' shall be taken to mean the earliest of the last day of the first in-person IETF meeting of the year or of a virtual meeting designated by the IESG to replace the in-person meeting, or March 31st. Likewise for the Second meeting except that the date shall be no earlier than the end date of the first meeting and no later than July 30th.  Likewise for the Third meeting except that the end date shall be no earlier than the date of the second meeting and no later than the 7th of December.  The beginning of such meeting shall be understood to be 6 days prior to the designated end date of that meeting."

I'm not opposed to leaving the document as is - but it would be nice to have some idea of what the various dates mean without having to write another temporary amendment.

Mike





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