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On 3/27/20 12:12 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: I don't know. I liked the side conversations on jabber, they were the only social element of this IETF, but at times (not always) they went beyond commenting what the current speaker was saying, and started being separate complex technical conversations, and at that point it became impossible to focus at the same time on the presentation and on the side discussion. Sometimes it felt like the actual session was going on in jabber, and the set of slowly changing slides with spoken comment (which in a videoconference are bound to be boring anyway) had become almost a background noise; perhaps that was not the intended effect. I also found this to be true, the jabber conversations were a
distraction from the speaker. But I found the jabber
conversations more productive than the presentations, much like at
a physical IETF the bar conversations are more productive than the
sessions. The odd thing is that the productive jabber conversations would hardly exist without the presentations, so in a sense the presentations do facilitate the useful conversations. But maybe it's possible to structure things so that this works better. Maybe have sessions alternate between video presentations and jabber conversations? The result of the high volume of chatter in Jabber is that the meetings themselves become even more just a place for presentations and mic lines, not a group of people moving ideas forward. Or maybe the jabber conversations are closer to the real purpose
of the meetings than the presentations are, and that's what we
need to optimize. (this reminds me of the algorithm for laying out sidewalks on a university campus - just grow grass everywhere, and see where the grass gets worn, then put sidewalks along those paths.) Keith
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