On 21/3/20 06:57, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
Actually, I’m more and more convinced that we can make it without the
need of canceling.
And also, I think it has been proven with the late IETF107 cancellation,
that in terms of recovering traveling expenses, it is better to do it
close to the event dates.
I don't know how that could possibly be the case. At that point, you've
already paid the registration and probably booked flight and
accommodation.. so you have to start praying that you will be reimbursed
each of them....
I was not able to cancel and fully recover my
flight to Vancouver (expected to be flying today), until a couple of
days ago. I’ve another flight to the canceled LACNIC in Cali (Colombia)
in May, which I can’t yet recover, because some airlines right now only
provide refunds or even vouchers for flights up to 31^st of March, but
I’m convinced that if I wait, this will be extended, or the prohibition
from Colombia to flight there or enter there from EU will force the
airline to refund.
For the flights, it seems to boil down to: if your flight was cancelled,
you can get a refund. Otherwise (e.g., your event was cancelled, but now
your flight), you're toast, or best-case scenario you get a voucher.
Regarding the southern hemisphere. I’ve just now made the exercise of
looking at the list of countries. They are mainly African countries,
some LAC countries (Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Paraguay, Peru and
Uruguay, partially Brazil and Ecuador, even Colombia in a small part of
the country).
The average number of IETF participants from those countries, looking at
summer IETF in Europe (because I know some people doesn’t go to IETF in
summer, and some others only go/not go to IETF when it is in a specific
region), seems to be close to 10-12 people. 99% of them come from LAC
(mainly Uruguay, Argentina and Brazil). There were more countries
(including Africa), when the ISOC fellowships were available, which is
no longer the case.
Then we have numbers of participants that come from Australia and New
Zealand, sometimes Indonesia. In this case seems more variable, but
still in the order of 15 people.
I will say that we are talking about 30 people in total. However, if you
look at the LAC countries, several countries are already in quarantine,
others considering it.
In think it is feasible to consider that in the worst case, we can lose
about 2/3 of those participants, so about 20 people (I think it will be
much less, but just being conservative).
I don't want to suggest or imply greater importance for us
southern-hemisphere'ers, but... maybe a better metric could be how much
work they do, as opposed to number of people?
Thanks,
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Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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