Re: NomCom eligibility & IETF 107

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Russ,

That ignores one of the reasons for requiring attendance which is to better know the IETF and hence to have the context for decisions.

I would prefer that the requirement to have actually attended three meetings is retained.

Stewart

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> On 13 Mar 2020, at 13:55, Russ Housley <housley@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Dear IESG:
> 
> My preference would to count everyone as having attended IETF 107.  The me, this is the most fair approach to a person that is just getting involved in the IETF.
> 
> Russ
> 
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> The cancellation of the in-person IETF 107 meeting raises the issue of
>> how that meeting affects NomCom (Nominating Committee) eligibility.
>> This is especially important because a new NomCom will be formed
>> between now and IETF 108, giving us all a fairly short time to figure
>> out what to do.
>> 
>> For convenient reference, the current rules for an IETF participant to
>> be eligible to be a voting member of a NomCom (Section 4.14 of RFC
>> 8713) require attendance in person at three of the last five meetings.
>> Normally, for the upcoming NomCom, that would mean three of the
>> following five meetings: 107 (Vancouver), 106 (Singapore), 105
>> (Montréal), 104 (Prague), 103 (Bangkok). A new participant who had
>> been to 105 and 106 would become eligible by attending 107.  An
>> occasional participant who had been to 103 and 105 would also become
>> eligible by attending 107. On the other side, someone who had attended
>> 102, 104, and 105 would lose eligibility by NOT attending 107.
>> 
>> The IESG would like the community’s input: How do *you* think 107
>> should be treated in regards to NomCom eligibility?  While we have
>> time to come up with a longer-term answer for this as a general
>> matter, we need to make a one-time decision about how to handle 107
>> now, before this year’s NomCom is formed.
>> 
>> One choice is to entirely ignore 107 for the purposes of NomCom
>> eligibility.  The last five meetings would then be 106, 105, 104, 103,
>> and 102, and one would have had to attend three of those to be
>> eligible this year.
>> 
>> Another choice is to consider 107 to be a meeting that everyone has
>> attended, for the purpose of NomCom eligibility.  There, the last five
>> would still be 107 to 103, but 107 would be an automatic “yes” for
>> anyone who volunteers for the NomCom.
>> 
>> Perhaps there are other workable options.  Please let us know what you
>> think by responding to this message thread.  And to be absolutely
>> clear: whatever we, as a community, decide now, with fairly short lead
>> time, is for the 2020-2021 NomCom cycle only.  Any longer-term
>> decisions might be different and will need to be done through a more
>> formal, consensus-based process, which we also hope to initiate in the
>> near future.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for the discussion we’re sure to have on this.
>> 
>> Barry, for the IESG
>> 
> 





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