Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

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Thx Jay for clarification. 

Do we have a copy of IETF registration rules or URL to it ? 

Hi Philllip, 

Thank you for your opinion. First I am not sure if registering in IETF is really a contract in a legal sense. It is more like an event fee. But let's assume it is. So IETF is a US company and it chooses to have a conference in Mozambique. 

I am in EU registering for that conference on IETF web page. Which law is applicable ? US or EU or Mozambique ? 

I asked above for the registration rules as it seems that if rules clearly state up front that any dispute would be handled according to US law - there is no case. 

Many thx,
Robert.


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:49 PM Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 3:37 PM Robert Raszuk <robert@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 
As I know, in many countries, what you write in your "rules" can't contradict the country laws. Said in another way: laws invalidate clauses in contracts that are more restrictive in regards to protecting rights. I'm not sure either, but I can guess that this kind of laws of liability for cancelation of events, etc., are most probably uniform across the EU.

I don't think it matters. IETF LLC is based in Fremont, CA and all events organized by it regardless of event location are subject to US law. 

The fact that IETF is held in any place other then US does not mean that when you sign up to attend you are subject to your local country or region law. 

I am not a lawyer but I do have significant (and expensive) experience in international contract law and the above is completely wrong.

The correct answer is 'it is complicated'.

The only firm conclusion that can be made is that the non-recoverable costs of bringing a case will almost certainly be many times the cost of a non refundable economy ticket which is the maximum you are likely to recover.

So unless you have decided to take up international litigation as a hobby, the issue is likely moot.

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