Thanks for the explanation.
I don't really want to speak out for or against zoom, as i don't really care
that much. I was more interested in having a bit of fun in a nerd
conversation about appropriate use of terminology here, but the list is
a bit too large to continue that branch of the thread. Hope we can continue
in person @IETF107, CoVid-19 permitting.
Cheers
Toerless
On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 11:09:25AM +0100, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On 2020-03-04, at 09:06, Toerless Eckert <tte@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > not evil
>
> Totally evil. Corporate suicide level evil.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_sin level.
>
> https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2019/07/zoom_vulnerabil.html
>
> The problem was not that they had a backdoor (which is seriously bad already, but don???t we all have vulns).
> The problem was that they pretended to have fixed it and then kept a hidden backdoor that allowed them to re-install their software surreptitiously while the computer owner thought they had uninstalled it.
> We had to wait for Apple to release an OS fix that silently removed the zoom bridgehead.
>
> You don???t do that and ever expect to be accepted back into the community.
>
> Grüße, Carsten
