Re: Recent threads concerning sergeants-at-arms

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On 9/2/2019 9:51 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote:

Hi Alissa - I appreciate you have a particular point of view about what you think is appropriate discussion on the IETF mailing list, but I think you're missing the point that what's important is the topic and its important to more than RFC format geeks  ( :-) )that hang out on the rfc-interest mailing list.  I also think you're mis-reading 3005. I don't think we're quite ready to discuss the technical aspects of the RFC series - and that's the appropriate set of discussions for rfc-interest, not the philosophy of the oversight of the RFC series and process. 


Matthew made a suggestion to use a mailing list controlled by the RFC Series Editor for discussion about an RFC Series-related SOW, based on the charter of this list described in RFC 3005.

As SAA, it's rare that such a posting would be considered just a suggestion.    I myself didn't actually take it as just a suggestion.  Eliot beat me in providing pushback.

It would be great if people decide to follow his suggestion, as some have already. If not, I am confident that the RSOC and the IAB will take into account what they read here between now and September 14 when the SOW comment period closes and I am optimistic that the discussion on rfc-interest, on this list, and everywhere in the IETF can remain respectful. My hope is that people will use the next 12 days to contemplate the email Sarah sent and provide their feedback.

Neither Matthew nor you appear to be reading the same things out of 3005 as the rest of us - I'd be interested in how you interpret this topic in a manner to suggest that its an inappropriate topic for the IETF list.

RFC3005: In addition to the topics noted above, appropriate postings include:

    - Last Call discussions of proposed protocol actions
    - Discussion of technical issues that are candidates for IETF work,
      but do not yet have an appropriate e-mail venue
    - Discussion of IETF administrative policies
    - Questions and clarifications concerning IETF meetings
    - Announcements of conferences, events, or activities that are
      sponsored or endorsed by the Internet Society or IETF.

   Inappropriate postings include:

    - Unsolicited bulk e-mail
    - Discussion of subjects unrelated to IETF policy, meetings,
      activities, or technical concerns
    - Unprofessional commentary, regardless of the general subject
    - Announcements of conferences, events, or activities that are not
      sponsored or endorsed by the Internet Society or IETF.

Later, Mike





Cheers,
Alissa Cooper
IETF Chair

[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/Q3f9FnFcrWKRySD-DqQCgI6lbCw
[2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/-3M3WswGZ_0zvYvDMO4f_J58qtQ
[3] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/M2d85XpOOR4tm78yGyh205iJWJc
[4] See slides 14 to 18 of https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-ietf-sessa-all-slides-ietf-105-administrativeoperations-plenary



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