> On the other hand, I, and I suspect others, don't really want to wade > through the IETF mailing list in order to follow this discussion. otoh, some of us do not want to subscribe to yet another mailing list for ietf administrivia. but yes, it is a trade-off to fork or not to fork when a sub-subject is hot on some list. do folk not have delete and delete-thread keys? randy