(changing the subject line to try to avoid a nasty S/N problem) --On Saturday, August 31, 2019 10:20 +0200 Eliot Lear <lear@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Can the Sergeant-at-Arms please not be this trigger happy? > > This was the focus of the discussion at the administrative > plenary, and deserves wide attention, in part because the > matter is urgent to close, given the limited period of time, > and quite frankly what Sarah is asking for amounts to last > call comments. The IETF list has always welcomed those. Do > we really need to reopen 3005 to make that point clearer? Matthew, I wouldn't have chosen "trigger happy" as a description, but I agree with Eliot and would go a bit further. First, as he points out, this topic was of broad enough concern in Montreal, and drew enough list discussion in the prior weeks, to have dominated the administrative plenary. It is clearly of broad concern to the community and I appreciate Eliot's comparison to a Last Call. There is, however, another issue: the rfc-interest list has traditionally focused on substantive issues with RFCs and the RFC Series, not personnel and administrative policies. Pushing this discussion there is inconsistent with "Discussions that fall within the area of any working group or well established list" because this is not clearly within the area of that list. More important RFC 3005 clearly calls out "Discussion of IETF administrative policies" as an appropriate posting topic and this discussion is very much about administrative policies. So, please reconsider your comment and back it out. Where I disagree with Eliot is that, if you don't consider withdrawing your instruction appropriate, I think the appropriate action, at least in the short term, would not be to open 3005 but to appeal your decision. thanks, john > On 31 Aug 2019, at 01:09, Matthew A. Miller <linuxwolf+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Please note that discussion on the Temporary RFC Series Project Manager > SOW should occur at < rfc-interest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >. As per RFC 3005, > the general list is appropriate unless there is a more specific venue. > > Information about the list, including how to subscribe, can be found at > < https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest >. > > > Thank you, > > - Matthew A. Miller > Sergeant-at-Arms
