Re: Consensus confirmation calls (was Re: Forming and confirming consensus

Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> · Sat, 3 Aug 2019 19:51:45 -0400



    On 8/3/19 6:53 PM, Joe Touch wrote:

    
          On Aug 3, 2019, at 3:32 PM, Nico Williams <nico@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
            wrote:
          

          I wouldn't want to insist that
              consensus can only form on the lists

            because a) that's not gonna fly, b)
              it would be very limiting of

            face-to-face meetings
        
      
      That then biases heavily towards those can attend in
        person.
      

      I agree with Keith - some preliminary notion of
        consensus can be “sampled” at a meeting, but ought to occur on
        the list for actual decisions.
    
    I think meetings can be incredibly useful for working out details
      of a proposal that is likely to earn consensus of the list.   And
      sometimes it seems clear that consensus will be reached if a
      relatively few parties are satisfied and the face-to-face meeting
      affords an opportunity to rapidly converge on a proposal that
      satisfies those parties.

    
    But there's an important difference between "we think we have a
      proposal that will reach consensus" and "we have already reached
      consensus at the meeting", and I hope that WG chairs recognize
      that.
    Keith