i authored two RFCs that were independent submissions: RFC 7016 (AD-sponsored; not actually in the Independent Stream, but it should have been, and caused some rule changes subsequent to publication) RFC 7425 (actually in the Independent Stream because of those rule changes) these RFCs document protocols that were in widespread use in the Internet and widely deployed, and the IETF and RFC Series was absolutely the right place for this documentation. there are at least two other Adobe RTMFP protocol documents that i would like to publish someday (time and resources permitting), and there is no other place than the RFC Series that makes sense to publish them. -michael thornburgh ________________________________________ From: ietf [ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] on behalf of Keith Moore [moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 1:34 PM [...] > I do think there should be room for "dissenting voices" within IETF to > publish informational documents alongside IETF RFCs, for much the same > reason that dissenting judicial opinions are useful. But I would hate > to see large numbers of non-IETF RFCs.