Re: On XML and $EDITORs (Re: Things that used to be clear (was ...)) "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.)

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On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 02:50:39AM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:
> Given that the RFC input format is XML, any editor that doesn’t
> operate on that XML is always going to put you at a disadvantage.  It

lyx2rfc is proof to the contrary!  :)

Really, it produces XML in xml2rfc format.  If all you want is .unpg,
..txt, or .html format, you'll never see the XML.  But you get to submit
it (since you have to).

> would be nice if there were a standard format we could use, but I

XML is standard; I assume you meant "some other standard format".

I don't propose doing away with XML entirely, and perhaps not at all.
As I've said, I think XML is absolutely the right tool for this job.
What sucks is that XML is not a UI.

Even if a LaTeX collaborative editor could be used, I'd still expect to
use LaTeX->XML + XSLs to be able to programmatically extract metadata
and other tasks, and at least for some time to convert to xml2rfc.

> don’t know of one that would work.  Using markdown, or Latex, or
> whatever, just adds one more layer of translation you have to deal
> with later.   I occasionally try to use markdown, but keep reverting
> back to XML because it’s just one less step.

I agree as to markdown.   Markdown we might never be able to
programmatically extract metadata we need, and we wouldn't have a good
migration path for RFC production.  It's XML, or LaTeX that can be
converted to XML, or something similar.

Nico
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