Off-list I'm told that there is at least one online, collaborative, BUI LaTeX editors, and asked what it might take to use one. My response: to use an online LaTeX editor we'd have to write LaTeX templates for I-Ds and RFCs. That would be *very* nice, actually, especially if there are good tools for converting to XML even if we then no longer need xml2rfc. Now, XML is super convenient because of XSLT, so all in all I'd rather not abandon XML altogether. I can see that there are TeX->XML tools, but I don't know how good they might be -- if they're good enough, switching to LaTeX might actually be a very good idea. Nico --