On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 08:57:23PM +0000, john heasley wrote: > Please re-read Snjider's email, to which you replied, without this > tangental notion of a "stable draft mark". > > I feel that you and others have mis-read it. Maybe I have, but I feel that > this stable draft idea is *not* what he is promoting; that was someone > else's idea and the two are being, but should not be, confused. I don't think Snjider's problem statement is terribly difficult to solve, and we have an answer already, which is an Informational RFC. Note his problem goals/requirements statement: * Protocol specifications or extensions are a non-goal * Provide more context around RFCs, such as use case documents, implementation reports, security-related recommendation, etc. * With a short identifier We have a large number of use case documents as Informational RFC's already. For example, RFC 7744, RFC 8151, RFC 6394, etc. We also have requirements documents that define the problem --- for example, RFC 2820. We have security-related recommendations as well, such as RFC 1750, "Randomness Requirements for Security" (although that's now a BCP, not just an Informational RFC). I suspect people have been jumping off to something which is harder, and perhaps for them, more interesting, which is signalling that a particular I-D version is one that is worthy of being implemented, and perhaps, deployed in a world where new implementations can be reliably rolled out to a large percentage of the installed base in 2-3 months. One answer is of course the experimental RFC, but the problem is that a lot of people see RFC and immediately assume, it's a stable, IETF-blessed standard documentation, regardless of the "Experimental" tag on the top of every single page of said document. But for Snjider's use case, where the document in question isn't a specification in any way, but instead is a use case or requirement document, implementation hints, etc., we don't have to worry about it being it mistaken for a protocol specification. Regards, - Ted