On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 03:13:31PM -0400, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > John, > > Some IETF WG lists (but not all) are set up so that a message from a > non-member of the list needs to be approved to a sender whitelist by the > list admin, and in addition, the sender receives an email invitation to > join the list. Perhaps all WG lists should move to this model. It's worked > well for the lists that I've administered. Of course, we did only fairly recently get a "global whitelist" to let people subscribe to any IETF list be permitted to post to all or nearly all IETF lists without having to subscribe to each one. So such a change should probably be considered in that broader context -- hopefully we can converge quickly on what the right answer is (if there even is a single right answer across all the lists). > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 2:59 PM John R Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Fri, 10 May 2019, John C Klensin wrote: > > > Yes, but remember (as I have been reminded recently) that the > > > sergeant-at-arms is responsible for the IETF list and not any WG > > > or non-WG lists. Maybe we should change that, or at least have (It already seems to be pretty hard to get volunteers to fill the sergeant-at-arms position; increasing the scope of the duties seems unlikely to make that easier.) > > > a standard/canned note about good and acceptable practices that > > > can be sent out easily on the authority of the responsible > > > person for a list or someone else, but that is a separate That could be pretty useful... > > > discussion (which I'd encourage the IESG to have at their > > > convenience). .... and need not even wait for IESG action for discussion to start. -Ben > > Seems reasonable. In this case the guy or thing seems to have stopped, > > but we seem to have a newish pattern of a few disruptive messages sent to > > a lot of lists. In the commercial world we call this snowshoe spam, > > spread lightly enough that no individual gets enough to act on it but in > > the aggregate quite annoying. > > > > Regards, > > John Levine, johnl@xxxxxxxxx, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY > > Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly > > > >
