But Linus wanted gnome! and the alternative Vigor runs in Vi... https://www.businessinsider.com/clippy-microsofts-talking-paperclip-is-back-and-linus-torvalds-loves-it-2013-5 (using IETF discussions as examples to get yahoo to improve its text editors and offer a text option on mobile is not going as well as I'd hoped.) Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx http://about.me/lloydwood On Tuesday, 29 January 2019, 09:46:27 GMT+11, Nick Hilliard <nick@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: https://www.smore.com/clippy-js Is there nothing the internet can't deliver? Nick (no excuses offered for html + top-posting) > > lloyd.wood=40yahoo.co.uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 28 January 2019 at 22:40 > > is there an open-source alternative to Clippy? > > if there is, bet it requires gnome... > > > Lloyd Wood > lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxx,uk > > On Tuesday, January 29, 2019, 08:43, Randy Bush <randy@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Randy Bush 28 January 2019 at 21:43 > >>> The charter explicitly calls out Github, rather than the more general >>> git. >>> >> Github is not the same as git. >> > which is why lloyd is questioning it being cemented in teh charter > >> It does all sorts of stuff that a generic git server does not do. >> > yep, a whole gui. > > but, we're say we're flying the open source flag, and github is closed > source owned by a well-known monster monopoly known for bending and > breaking standards (i have to bleeping use exchange in $dayjb) and a > paperclip avatar. > >> People use github because they use the features generic servers don't >> have. >> > there are open source alternatives, e.g. gogs. > > randy > > > > John Levine 28 January 2019 at 19:17 > > > Github is not the same as git. It does all sorts of stuff that a > generic git server does not do. People use github because they use > the features generic servers don't have. > > I don't see how it is useful to conflate the two. > > R's, > John > > PS: I run a generic git server on my own system so I speak from > experience here. > > > > lloyd.wood=40yahoo.co.uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 28 January 2019 at 11:49 > > The charter explicitly calls out Github, rather than the more general git. > > This is, I think, depending on how you look at it, either an attempt to focus the group or a category error, rather akin to the charters for the DTN groups deciding from the outset that bundling was all that DTN was, and now github is all that git is. > > Further category error examples welcomed... > > "How can the IETF take advantage of Windows 10? We'll need a wg charter. No, Clippy is not in scope!" > > > Lloyd Wood > lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx > > really looking forward to Clippy for GitHub and the Office Git assistant, changing how reviewing is done. > > On Sunday, January 27, 2019, 1:15 pm, Alissa Cooper <alissa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >