On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 08:14:29PM +0000, Dave Cridland wrote: > The consumer market is dominated by a set of large, well-funded companies > with a vested interest in ensuring there is no standard. The customers get some say, and they seem to be fine with that state of affairs, I guess. > This isn't the case in most - less visible - markets, although not all > markets have picked the same standard. The business/corporate world has > mostly picked Slack (with some Skype for Business - which is itself XMPP > and SIP/SIMPLE capable I think), the OSS project world still mostly > revolves around IRC, with a bit of Discord and others at the fringes. I quite like Discord. I'm very happy with Meetecho for IETF remote participation though. But I would really like an XMPP text-based client to run in a tty. > Several markets have adopted XMPP, though, both for IM and for general > structured realtime messaging. Many more players have adopted it in part > (usually C2S only) to gain access to some market, and then dropped it > (witness Slack, Facebook, Google, etc). > > Unless Meetecho has changed dramatically, it, too, is "just" another XMPP > implementation. Yes, but we all just use the web UI because the problem is the missing / rotted XMPP clients. Nico --
