>> The BRSKI specification is a tradeoff and that's why I would really >> like to see the tradeoff explained in clear terms in the spec. It is >> designed to prevent hijacking of the device during its registration >> in the buyer's network. > > By the way, there are many cases where the buyers and the > manufacturers interests are well aligned, besides just securing the > bootstrap. For example, consider the "router fell from the back of the > truck" scenario. I assume that both the original buyer and the > manufacturer will be interested to find out who the second hand buyer > is. yep. i like the idea of find my iphone, though it has not helped find a lost phone for me. but it is MY choice to use it. MY choice to register the phone with apple's add-on service. to quote myself from a private thread > i might have other relationships with the manufacture or third > parties, such as warranty, add-ons with non-ownership, color-matched > magenta paint, etc. but when i purchase the bleeping thing, i bloody > own it. randy