Re: I-D Action: draft-klensin-iesg-rfc5742bis-01.txt

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I meant to reply to John Klensin's message about the -00 draft, but
failed to do so. So I think that this draft is correct in its
analysis and proposals, based on quite a few years experience, not
just on the recent appeal.

As for the "the tradeoff between good sense and rule-following" that
John mentioned: yes. We should always be able to adapt our rules when
appropriate, since we made them. As long as the IESG consults the
community, of course.

Regards
   Brian Carpenter
On 2018-09-24 16:25, internet-drafts@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> 
> 
>         Title           : Clarifying and Updating the Document Conflict Review Procedure
>         Author          : John C Klensin
> 	Filename        : draft-klensin-iesg-rfc5742bis-01.txt
> 	Pages           : 11
> 	Date            : 2018-09-23
> 
> Abstract:
>    The IESG procedures for conducting conflict reviews of Independent
>    and IRTF Stream Submissions, described in RFC 5742, have proven
>    restrictive in ways that prevent the IESG from adequately expressing
>    its opinions and that can interfere with an open and transparent
>    process.  This document updates RFC 5742 to mitigate that problem.
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-klensin-iesg-rfc5742bis/
> 
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-klensin-iesg-rfc5742bis-01
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-klensin-iesg-rfc5742bis-01
> 
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-klensin-iesg-rfc5742bis-01
> 
> 
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
> 
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
> 
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