> On Jul 25, 2018, at 17:19, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Honestly though - in the absence of any worked-out proposal isn't > it time to end this thread or take it offlist? I'm happy to chat > more but unhappy to be boring the full list, which I suspect is what > we're doing. Even though not participating, I am interested in reading this discussion to learn about AD’s various issues, time et all. Paul