On Sat, Jun 02, 2018 at 03:54:54PM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > I'm an ignoramus, but: > On 02/06/2018 05:59, Nico Williams wrote: > ... > > Not everyone can pick up I18N expertise quickly? Sure, but we engineer > > complex things, so i suspect many participants at the IETF can actually > > pick up enough I18N expertise to be useful. I18N is not a dark art. > > If a dark art is one that involves combinatorial degrees of complexity > mixed with human perception, judgment and emotion, then I fear that I18N > *is* a dark art. We can perhaps manage such complexity by limiting the > scope of what we try to do in our protocols, but I for one would very > much appreciate having an I18N directorate reviewing everything. I disagree. It's not a black art. There are some corners where reasonable people can and will disagree (should emoji be allowed in domainnames?), and there will be some cases that require script-specific expertise, and therefore a lot of time to sort out. But I18N is not a dark art at all. If it were, then how would we get anything done in that space? The E in IETF stands for Engineering, not Dark Art.