[ sory to add to this convo ] > The problem isn't a lack of reviews, it's that these ideas have been > discussed repeatedly at the ietf over many years and the consensus is > that they are unworkable. omg! an unworkable ipv6 transition mechanism. be sure to get a picture of it. (sorry, could not resist) agree that brian's message, https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg99798.html, was on technical point. perhaps we can remind khaled to respond to it. > Khaled was warned multiple times by the sergeant-at-arms of the time > that his attempts to bring these topics up on the ietf@ mailing list > were not ok: i was rather horrified by this censorship aimed at just one more eng pushing their ideas; the dos attack was the responses, not khaled's postings from outside the in-crowd culture. no need to repeat. attack the ideas, not the person. brian's message is a great example of the high ground. randy