> On Mar 22, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Matthew A. Miller <linuxwolf+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > All, > > Please continue this discussion on < venue-selection@xxxxxxxx >. As per > 3005, discussions on topics with an established forum should continue there. Just to clarify: venue-selection@xxxxxxxx is a one-way dropbox for the community to provide feedback to the IAOC about specific locations that may be considered for future IETF meetings. So if you have such feedback, whether about locations we have queried about already or not, please send it there. (City-level feedback is preferable IMO.) But it is not a discussion list. mtgvenue@xxxxxxxx is the place to discuss the 1-1-1-* policy for geographic distribution of IETF meetings. I am planning to send draft-ietf-mtgvenue-meeting-policy out for IETF last call shortly, so please send your comments on the draft to that list if you have them. Thanks, Alissa > > > - m&m > > Matthew A. Miller > Sergeant-at-arms > On 18/03/22 09:25, Khaled Omar wrote: >> This warning does not reflects the actual status of the country, we have >> a stable situation now here after having a president and government for >> a long time, and what happens sometimes in sinai happens in many other >> countries, but in Cairo it is totally different. >> >> Khaled >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:58:13 AM >> *To:* Khaled Omar; ietf@xxxxxxxx >> *Subject:* Re: meeting in other places >> >> The company travel policies are usually set to reflect what the local >> foreign office equivalent says. >> >> Example for UK: https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/egypt >> >> Based on the run-down in that page the reaction of a UK company would be >> that a conference there is a no-go territory and it may not be covered >> by the company travel insurance. >> >> Other companies/countries operate in a similar manner. >> >> A >> >> On 03/22/18 08:46, Khaled Omar wrote: >>>> When Egypt is off the travel warning list in most of the world - maybe. >>> >>> There is no reason to be on the warning list, now everything is >>> stable, but does this means that people cannot travel to Egypt or it >>> is just a warning? >>> >>> Khaled >>> >>> >>> From: Anton Ivanov >>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 8:45 AM >>> Subject: Re: meeting in other places >>> To: ietf@xxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> On 21/03/18 21:16, Khaled Omar wrote: >> A few years ago, I suggested >>> in the open mike, in several consecutive meetings, that we should go >>> to Africa and Latin America. > I suggested too before to held one of >>> the IETF meetings in Cairo, Egypt and I'm not talking about tourism, >>> there are many different hotels here that can handle the large number >>> of participants in addition to the sessions' halls. Sure. When Egypt >>> is off the travel warning list in most of the world - maybe. Before >>> that - no. A. > > Egypt is in the middle of the world, it will allow >>> fair distances for everyone, also the weather here is warm almost all >>> year max 38 C and min 15 C without rain or snow. > >> but the region >>> rotation need to start changing and allowing that. > I agree with >>> that. > >> the registration fee should be reduced or made almost free. >>>> This is something that should be taken into consideration, if that >>> is not possible, there should be some sponsorships for a small number >>> of participants to enable them to attend the meeting in person. > > >>> Best Regards, > > Khaled > > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf >>> [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ > >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:29 PM > To: IETF discussion list > >>> Subject: meeting in other places > > A few years ago, I suggested in >>> the open mike, in several consecutive meetings, that we should go to >>> Africa and Latin America. > > I was almost killed because that. > > >>> Then, we went to Buenos Aires and nobody had any issue compared with >>> the regular issues that happen in other locations (cookies, >>> pick-pockets, and so .... choose your preferred one). > > I didn't get >>> yet a meeting in Africa. Is time for it! > > Of course, if venues can >>> accommodate us. I know very well how difficult is to find a venue for >>> our group. I'm not trying to break those rules, but the region >>> rotation need to start changing and allowing that. > > Considering the >>> actual conversation in the plenary, I think is time to seriously >>> consider *urgently* to return to Latin America and look for locations >>> in Africa, more locations in Asia Pacific, and so on. > > Also, I >>> think it is clear that if we really want to share expenses, thinks >>> said today need to be considered: > 1) Ideally, the registration fee >>> should be reduced or made almost free. We need to find better funding, >>> or even study with ISOC if there are able to increase our funding >>> towards that. > 2) Remote participants should share part of the cost. >>>> 3) Local participants don't have (same) traveling expenses, so they >>> should also cover some extra cost. > > Regards, > Jordi > > > > > >>> ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are >>> you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.consulintel.es > The >>> IPv6 Company > > This electronic message contains information which >>> may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be >>> for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further >>> non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of >>> the contents of this information, even if partially, including >>> attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a >>> criminal offense. 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