That's not the right venue:
"This mailing list acts as a dropbox for community input on venue selection (sites, process). The list recipients are current members of the IAOC or its meetings committee.
The archive is PUBLIC, but as a drop box, it is not meant for discussion threads.
For discussion of IETF meeting sites, please join mtgvenue@xxxxxxxx ."
By the way, RFC3005 also forbids announcing conferences in this list and we got a couple of them in the last few months, and no warning was provided. I will suggest equal treatment to any RFC3005 related issues.
Regards,
Jordi
-----Mensaje original-----
De: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> en nombre de "Matthew A. Miller" <linuxwolf+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Fecha: jueves, 22 de marzo de 2018, 9:49
Para: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "ietf@xxxxxxxx" <ietf@xxxxxxxxx>, Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Asunto: Re: meeting in other places
All,
Please continue this discussion on < venue-selection@xxxxxxxx >. As per
3005, discussions on topics with an established forum should continue there.
- m&m
Matthew A. Miller
Sergeant-at-arms
On 18/03/22 09:25, Khaled Omar wrote:
> This warning does not reflects the actual status of the country, we have
> a stable situation now here after having a president and government for
> a long time, and what happens sometimes in sinai happens in many other
> countries, but in Cairo it is totally different.
>
> Khaled
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:58:13 AM
> *To:* Khaled Omar; ietf@xxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: meeting in other places
>
> The company travel policies are usually set to reflect what the local
> foreign office equivalent says.
>
> Example for UK: https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/egypt
>
> Based on the run-down in that page the reaction of a UK company would be
> that a conference there is a no-go territory and it may not be covered
> by the company travel insurance.
>
> Other companies/countries operate in a similar manner.
>
> A
>
> On 03/22/18 08:46, Khaled Omar wrote:
>> > When Egypt is off the travel warning list in most of the world - maybe.
>>
>> There is no reason to be on the warning list, now everything is
>> stable, but does this means that people cannot travel to Egypt or it
>> is just a warning?
>>
>> Khaled
>>
>>
>> From: Anton Ivanov
>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 8:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: meeting in other places
>> To: ietf@xxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> On 21/03/18 21:16, Khaled Omar wrote: >> A few years ago, I suggested
>> in the open mike, in several consecutive meetings, that we should go
>> to Africa and Latin America. > I suggested too before to held one of
>> the IETF meetings in Cairo, Egypt and I'm not talking about tourism,
>> there are many different hotels here that can handle the large number
>> of participants in addition to the sessions' halls. Sure. When Egypt
>> is off the travel warning list in most of the world - maybe. Before
>> that - no. A. > > Egypt is in the middle of the world, it will allow
>> fair distances for everyone, also the weather here is warm almost all
>> year max 38 C and min 15 C without rain or snow. > >> but the region
>> rotation need to start changing and allowing that. > I agree with
>> that. > >> the registration fee should be reduced or made almost free.
>> > This is something that should be taken into consideration, if that
>> is not possible, there should be some sponsorships for a small number
>> of participants to enable them to attend the meeting in person. > >
>> Best Regards, > > Khaled > > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf
>> [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ >
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:29 PM > To: IETF discussion list >
>> Subject: meeting in other places > > A few years ago, I suggested in
>> the open mike, in several consecutive meetings, that we should go to
>> Africa and Latin America. > > I was almost killed because that. > >
>> Then, we went to Buenos Aires and nobody had any issue compared with
>> the regular issues that happen in other locations (cookies,
>> pick-pockets, and so .... choose your preferred one). > > I didn't get
>> yet a meeting in Africa. Is time for it! > > Of course, if venues can
>> accommodate us. I know very well how difficult is to find a venue for
>> our group. I'm not trying to break those rules, but the region
>> rotation need to start changing and allowing that. > > Considering the
>> actual conversation in the plenary, I think is time to seriously
>> consider *urgently* to return to Latin America and look for locations
>> in Africa, more locations in Asia Pacific, and so on. > > Also, I
>> think it is clear that if we really want to share expenses, thinks
>> said today need to be considered: > 1) Ideally, the registration fee
>> should be reduced or made almost free. We need to find better funding,
>> or even study with ISOC if there are able to increase our funding
>> towards that. > 2) Remote participants should share part of the cost..
>> > 3) Local participants don't have (same) traveling expenses, so they
>> should also cover some extra cost. > > Regards, > Jordi > > > > >
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