All, Please continue this discussion on < venue-selection@xxxxxxxx >. As per 3005, discussions on topics with an established forum should continue there. - m&m Matthew A. Miller Sergeant-at-arms On 18/03/22 09:25, Khaled Omar wrote: > This warning does not reflects the actual status of the country, we have > a stable situation now here after having a president and government for > a long time, and what happens sometimes in sinai happens in many other > countries, but in Cairo it is totally different. > > Khaled > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:58:13 AM > *To:* Khaled Omar; ietf@xxxxxxxx > *Subject:* Re: meeting in other places > > The company travel policies are usually set to reflect what the local > foreign office equivalent says. > > Example for UK: https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/egypt > > Based on the run-down in that page the reaction of a UK company would be > that a conference there is a no-go territory and it may not be covered > by the company travel insurance. > > Other companies/countries operate in a similar manner. > > A > > On 03/22/18 08:46, Khaled Omar wrote: >> > When Egypt is off the travel warning list in most of the world - maybe. >> >> There is no reason to be on the warning list, now everything is >> stable, but does this means that people cannot travel to Egypt or it >> is just a warning? >> >> Khaled >> >> >> From: Anton Ivanov >> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 8:45 AM >> Subject: Re: meeting in other places >> To: ietf@xxxxxxxx >> >> >> On 21/03/18 21:16, Khaled Omar wrote: >> A few years ago, I suggested >> in the open mike, in several consecutive meetings, that we should go >> to Africa and Latin America. > I suggested too before to held one of >> the IETF meetings in Cairo, Egypt and I'm not talking about tourism, >> there are many different hotels here that can handle the large number >> of participants in addition to the sessions' halls. Sure. When Egypt >> is off the travel warning list in most of the world - maybe. Before >> that - no. A. > > Egypt is in the middle of the world, it will allow >> fair distances for everyone, also the weather here is warm almost all >> year max 38 C and min 15 C without rain or snow. > >> but the region >> rotation need to start changing and allowing that. > I agree with >> that. > >> the registration fee should be reduced or made almost free. >> > This is something that should be taken into consideration, if that >> is not possible, there should be some sponsorships for a small number >> of participants to enable them to attend the meeting in person. > > >> Best Regards, > > Khaled > > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf >> [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:29 PM > To: IETF discussion list > >> Subject: meeting in other places > > A few years ago, I suggested in >> the open mike, in several consecutive meetings, that we should go to >> Africa and Latin America. > > I was almost killed because that. > > >> Then, we went to Buenos Aires and nobody had any issue compared with >> the regular issues that happen in other locations (cookies, >> pick-pockets, and so .... choose your preferred one). > > I didn't get >> yet a meeting in Africa. Is time for it! > > Of course, if venues can >> accommodate us. I know very well how difficult is to find a venue for >> our group. I'm not trying to break those rules, but the region >> rotation need to start changing and allowing that. > > Considering the >> actual conversation in the plenary, I think is time to seriously >> consider *urgently* to return to Latin America and look for locations >> in Africa, more locations in Asia Pacific, and so on. > > Also, I >> think it is clear that if we really want to share expenses, thinks >> said today need to be considered: > 1) Ideally, the registration fee >> should be reduced or made almost free. We need to find better funding, >> or even study with ISOC if there are able to increase our funding >> towards that. > 2) Remote participants should share part of the cost. >> > 3) Local participants don't have (same) traveling expenses, so they >> should also cover some extra cost. > > Regards, > Jordi > > > > > >> ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are >> you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.consulintel.es > The >> IPv6 Company > > This electronic message contains information which >> may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be >> for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further >> non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of >> the contents of this information, even if partially, including >> attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a >> criminal offense. 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