On 3/2/2018 11:50 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote:
Absolutely. We already have a policy ... Let's just use our existing policy
I think we need to take this more seriously. The real problem with the proposed policy is that it only deals with a point issue, when it should really be creating an architecture. There are many things that people do at IETF that I find annoying. Since it is my fundamental human right not to be annoyed by others, I suggest that we create an IANA registry of annoying behaviors. The registration policy can be FCFS, and a 32-bit codepoint should be sufficient. Then when registering for the IETF, one should be able to request that a specific list of annoying codepoints be printed on one's badge. This should be sufficient to prevent all annoying behavior from occurring in one's vicinity. Presumably we can have codepoints for "taking pictures of me", "taking pictures of me doing something stupid", "taking pictures of me with a flash when within 5 feet of me", "expressing uninformed opinions", "standing between me the cookies", "printing annoying codepoints on the badges", "complaining about being photographed in public", "posting silly or sarcastic messages to the IETF mailing list", etc., etc., etc.
If an algorithm is developed to map the codepoints to RGB coordinates, each codepoint can be represented by a colored dot on the badge. Well, unless that is taken to be annoying to the color-blind.
and get on with trying routing protocols secure - isn't that windmill enough?
We should certainly have a codepoint in the annoying registry for security experts who complain about insecure routing protocols but cannot point to practical solutions.
Another observation one might make is that although the IESG is always complaining about how overloaded they are, they seem to have way too much time on their hands.