On 2/15/18 1:30 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
On 15 Feb 2018, at 11:06, Russ Housley wrote:
Perhaps a silly question, but why retire the MHonArc archives at all?
The goal is to save only once copy of the mail archives for all
purposes. Current practices involve duplicate stores, which impact
storage and replication and are subject to inconsistency. Also, if
the Secretariat is asked to remove a spam message from the archives,
it must be done in multiple places.
The full answer is captured in RFC 6778.
That's a full answer to his question, but not mine. Was there a
decision (from the IAOC or IESG) to retire the MHonArc archives? If
so, a pointer to that would be useful.
This (getting to a single source of truth for the archives) is something
we have been working towards since we started on the project that
RFC6778 informed was started. We occasionally think we're close, and
assess, and find we need to do more before we switch fully to that
single source of truth. That happened recently, where we (the tools
development team) discussed the beginning of an idea to create static
pages much more like the mhonarc pages that can be _recreated_ on demand
when the single source of truth changes. That will require more
development effort, and we are planning on discussing the feasibility
of that while in London. There is no decision to remove Mhonarc right
away. We _will_ have a discussion with the community before it is
retired. The ticket closure that started this thread was unfortunately
terse - sorry for the apprehension it has raised.
FWIW, RFC 6778 mentions MHonArc once:
There are many existing archived messages containing embedded links
into the existing MHonArc [MHonArc] mail archive. These links must
continue to work, but they should reach the message as archived in
the new system.
To me, that goes against the idea of retiring the archives.
Read it more carefully. Note that it says "reach the messages as
archived in the new system". It was there to support the abilithy to
retire Mhonarc in the long run.
--Paul
