Yes, both would be excellent clarifications that would have helped me. Thanks Stewart Sent from my iPad > On 28 Jan 2018, at 13:28, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Steward, > > Please see inline. > >> --- >> >>> SB> You introduce Ta, but it would be so much kinder to the reader to >>> SB> give it a real name. >> Ta was defined in RFC 5245, and it's commonly used in ICE-related >> discussions, so I think it would cause confusion to change the name at >> this point. >> >> I understand. Maybe some words to explain it a little. Perhaps "the foo timer known in this technology as Ta" of something similar. >> >>>> You say "Let HTO" again a user friendly name would be helpful to the >>>> new reader >>> The name was provided by transport people that provided text. As it¹s >>> similar to RTO, I¹d like to keep it. >> >> I see what you are doing. You could however give it a name and say known as HTO. A name just makes it easier to remember what it does. > > First, I am not sure which generic timer Ta could be associated with. Ta is very ICE specific, as it controls the STUN/TURN transactions. > > Section 5.1.1.2 says: > > "The gathering process is controlled using a timer, Ta. Every time Ta > expires, the agent can generate another new STUN or TURN transaction." > > Would it help if I added the timer descriptions to the Terminology section? Something like: > > Timer Ta: The timer for generating new STUN or TURN transactions. > Timer RTO: The retransmission timer for a given STUN or TURN transaction. > Timer HTO: The timeout timer for a given STUN or TURN transaction. > > --- > >>>> Appendix B is great, particularly from section B5 onwards. It would >>>> be great to forward reference this to help the reader understand the >>>> normative text earlier in the document. >>> Any particular place where you would like to have the reference? In the Introduction? >> Yes a heads up to to Appendix in the Intro would be useful, the a pointer to the specific section >> when you first introduce a parameter doing something in the protocol. > > What about adding the following new paragraph to the end of the Introduction. > > "[REF-to-Appendix-B] provide background information and motivations regarding the design > decisions that were made when designing ICE." > > Regards, > > Christer