Hi Steward, Please see inline. > --- > >> SB> You introduce Ta, but it would be so much kinder to the reader to >> SB> give it a real name. > Ta was defined in RFC 5245, and it's commonly used in ICE-related > discussions, so I think it would cause confusion to change the name at > this point. > > I understand. Maybe some words to explain it a little. Perhaps "the foo timer known in this technology as Ta" of something similar. > >>> You say "Let HTO" again a user friendly name would be helpful to the >>> new reader >> The name was provided by transport people that provided text. As it¹s >> similar to RTO, I¹d like to keep it. > > I see what you are doing. You could however give it a name and say known as HTO. A name just makes it easier to remember what it does. First, I am not sure which generic timer Ta could be associated with. Ta is very ICE specific, as it controls the STUN/TURN transactions. Section 5.1.1.2 says: "The gathering process is controlled using a timer, Ta. Every time Ta expires, the agent can generate another new STUN or TURN transaction." Would it help if I added the timer descriptions to the Terminology section? Something like: Timer Ta: The timer for generating new STUN or TURN transactions. Timer RTO: The retransmission timer for a given STUN or TURN transaction. Timer HTO: The timeout timer for a given STUN or TURN transaction. --- >>> Appendix B is great, particularly from section B5 onwards. It would >>> be great to forward reference this to help the reader understand the >>> normative text earlier in the document. >> Any particular place where you would like to have the reference? In the Introduction? > Yes a heads up to to Appendix in the Intro would be useful, the a pointer to the specific section > when you first introduce a parameter doing something in the protocol. What about adding the following new paragraph to the end of the Introduction. "[REF-to-Appendix-B] provide background information and motivations regarding the design decisions that were made when designing ICE." Regards, Christer