Actually, sergeant-at-arms should have acted against this thread long time ago, following RFC3005. Saludos, Jordi -----Mensaje original----- De: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> en nombre de Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@xxxxxxxxx> Responder a: <morrowc.lists@xxxxxxxxx> Fecha: jueves, 21 de diciembre de 2017, 17:39 Para: John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> CC: rtgwg <rtgwg@xxxxxxxx>, ietf <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Asunto: Re: When the IETF can discuss drafts seriously? The actual problem here is that the draft discussion's don't actually belong on the IETF@ list though... They belong in their respective WG lists, or perhaps on the IRTF list. Can we just move the discussion(s) there? :) On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 10:56 AM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: Folks, May I suggest that we wind this discussion thread down. Whether correct or not, analyses of Khaled's character are probably not helpful and repetitive versions of them are less so. The S/N ratio on the IETF list is never wonderful and this thread should not contribute to making it worse. At least IMO, Khaled has been given a number of quite constructive suggestions (both on-list and off) about how to proceed if he wants to do so. Almost all of them include focusing on a problem statement and/or a careful and reflect literature review and analysis, but, if he wants to make progress, he needs to understand the details of those suggestions. Let's give him time to do that and see what, in the form of a draft focused on those topics, he comes up with and, in the process, try to reserve judgment about intentions, quality of listening, etc. best, john ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.consulintel.es The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.