Re: Hand-off agreements, when work is brought into the IETF

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Smells like a solution looking for a problem. I could see an informational document explaining what change control means, but do we really have a series of issues that needs solving?

> On Sep 10, 2017, at 10:23 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> I wonder how far people think hand-off agreement should be
> pushed.  For example, there have been several cases of a
> protocol being sorted out in what appeared to have been an ad
> hoc organization or other group and then brought to the IETF as
> an already finished and already deployed product with
> willingness to transfer formal change control to the IETF but
> significant, if informal, resistance to changes.  Do you think
> we need formal handoff agreements for those cases?  I think
> that, in general, we haven't gotten them and that those cases
> outnumber the ones where we've had formal agreements and, in
> some cases, baseline or prior work informational RFCs.
> 
>    john
> 
> 
> --On Thursday, September 7, 2017 07:57 -0700 Dave Crocker
> <dhc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/7/2017 7:53 AM, Russ Housley wrote:
>>> Also, when change control is fully given the the IETF, we
>>> have seen the original work published as an Informational RFC
>>> that includes a statement that any future versions will be
>>> published by the IETF.
>> 
>> 
>> Publishing the pre-IETF work is common, though of course not
>> required.
>> 
>> However there appears to be no documented guidance for
>> hand-off agreements and no repository for the set of existing
>> agreements.  This is in contrast, for example, to the IPR
>> statements repository.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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