----- Original Message ----- From: "Mehmet Ersue" <mersue@xxxxxxxxx> To: "'Andrew G. Malis'" <agmalis@xxxxxxxxx>; "'Spencer Dawkins at IETF'" <spencerdawkins.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: "'IETF'" <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 6:01 PM Without knowing the URL one can always download the current version of Note Well slide from: WG Chair’s Page / Meeting Tools / Note Well (PPT <https://www.ietf.org/wg/documents/note-well.ppt> ) <tp> Yes, if you are a WG Chair at an IETF Meeting:-) The e-mail participant would not know to do this AFAICT (and I am subscribed to the ipr mailing list!); and even now, the e-mail participant who does not track the IETF list would still probably not know of a revised Notewell.. Tom Petch I agree, copying regularly is easier than checking the content. Cheers, Mehmet From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 5:36 PM To: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: IETF <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: In Search of a Revised Notewell Spencer, Before each meeting I always recopy the Note Well text into my chairs slides, because there just might be a change in the wording, and it’s easier to copy than to check. Cheers, Andy On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:spencerdawkins.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: Under the category of "mistakes were made" ... On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Lee Howard <lee@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lee@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: On 8/9/17, 4:33 AM, "ietf on behalf of tom p." <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx <mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of daedulus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:daedulus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > >Clearly the WG Chairs have been given a briefing but is this something >that those of us who only contribute via e-mail should be aware of? If >so, how? I cannot recall seeing anything on WG lists about this, until >I started reading the minutes, since January 2016. I recall seeing an announcement from Scott Bradner that certain IPR rules had been updated. I don’t remember seeing a broad community announcement with the banner, “The Note Well advisory has changed.” https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well.html I presume that the new version was used in meeting registration. I assume so as well, although of course I didn't notice at the time. True confession - I did the slides for TSVAREA at IETF 99, and didn't think to change the RFC number on my Note Well slide. It's not like I didn't know about RFC 8179. According to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8179/ballot/, I BALLOTED YES WITH COMMENTS on it. But that didn't translate into me changing my Note Well slide ... making the change to my IETF 100 slide deck now. So, Tom, thanks for asking about this, and helping the rest of us catch up. Spencer, who apparently isn't getting enough caffeine in his diet Pepsi, in spite of many valiant efforts to do so ...